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Itís been years since WWE was involved in a real promotional war. In the U.S., theyíve been the dominant promotion and TNA never really offered up much of a challenge.

In North America, there hasnít been a well-known alternative since 2001 and real competition probably since WCW destroyed itself in 1999. WWE has never taken the tact that they are in competition with overseas promotions, even in Japan.

However, new WWE Mexico president Bosco Attolini Pesqueira said this past week that they are looking at signing many of the biggest names in Mexico. He noted the company now has its own offices in Mexico and its television on Televisa and TV Azteca gives them equal, if not better exposure, than both AAA and CMLL. He noted the new TV deals with make WWE bigger and they are looking to entice talent to sign.

The first signing is Dos Caras Jr., who has been in talks with the company for months and had been close to signing a few months back before temporarily not going.

Caras Jr. said he ended up leaving on bad terms with CMLL, although when he said it he still had a few bookings left with his last night apparently being 10/10 at Arena Mexico, and in the main event, no less. Caras Jr. holds the CMLL world heavyweight title and even though it has been known for months that he may be leaving, they never set up a program for him to drop the title, and now heís leaving without having lost.

He said one of the reasons he left is that CMLL never cared if he left or not and that after WWE made him his offer, they never came to him to try and convince him to stay. He said the only reason heís worked there since is because heís a professional and honored his contract until it expired. He said he thinks CMLL is in bad shape, citing unhappy wrestlers and lower attendance. He said he will vacate the title and said that CMLL thought he would take the title belt to WWE. But WWE isnít going to recognize the title of a different organization they donít have a working relationship with, so if anyone at CMLL really thought heíd show up wearing the belt, they donít really understand how WWE does its business.

In Mexico, everyone knows this is the biggest story to hit Mexican wrestling since the business started coming back strong four years ago. And like in the U.S., how it plays out over the long run will determine the future of Lucha Libre.
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Besides wanting to make the wrestlers into better actors and to more professionally do lines in their backstage segments (usually pretapes) , Vince McMahon has also talked about doing a more realistic style. Norman Smiley, who was hired as a coach at developmental, was told he was brought in because of his background in the more realistic Japanese style. I don’t expect to see it become a UWF style or anything like that, but they don’t want blows and moves that look like they miss and are then sold, and don’t want a lot of light showing in moves. They want to bring back a more realistic feel to the matches. Vince has long been a proponent of, instead of old school pro wrestling where a guy just gets punched in the face, the guy selling at least puts up his hands to offer a defense. They’ve been back-and-forth for more than a year on the concept of the knockout finish. They’ll try it. It doesn’t get over because nothing does in pro wrestling until people are educated to it (and most things with enough time, even moves completely silly, do get over if they are put over enough). Earlier this year they were on this kick of making sure everything gets laid in on the TV shows during the move to HD, because it would make missed moves more evident. It’s an irony that at a time when fans seem to take the action less seriously than ever before, you see more accidental hardways and black eyes than ever before because more contact to the face is being made instead of the old style of pounding the chest or back hard because you can take it easier.

To say the ECW announcing crew has been snake bit is the understatement of the century. Both Todd Grisham and Matt Striker lost their fathers in recent weeks to absolute tragedies. Grisham’s father was riding a bicycle and was hit by a drunk driver, who I believe has since been arrested. Striker’s father was eating a peach and somehow the peach pit got into his windpipe and choked him. While hospitalized, they discovered he had an unrelated aneurism. They performed a procedure and thought it went well, but afterwards he went into a coma. He’d been in the coma for a few weeks and Striker still came in for his Tuesday tapings, and obviously from his performance, worked hard. But his father passed away over the weekend.

Steve Austin’s new movie, “Damage,” is scheduled to start shooting on 10/17 in Vancouver. Austin is booked for Cyber Sunday in the middle of shooting, and he’s the lead character. The plan is for the movie to take the day of shooting and have Austin fly in for the show and then fly right back to Vancouver for a Monday shooting. Austin is the lead in the movie,. He plays a convict who just gets out of prison and somehow gets pressured into underground fighting. Sounds sort of familiar.

This will be the third time they’ve brought back Austin for Cyber Sunday, a show that usually gets just about the biggest promotional push of any “B” show and usually ends up doing one of the lowest numbers of the year. I think because it is their idea and bragging about 13 million votes sounds good to the outside world, they break their backs trying to make it successful. This year they are changing things as instead of logging onto the Internet to vote, they are having people text their votes and charging 99 cents per vote. Obviously they aren’t getting 13 million votes, but if they get 1 million votes, with their share of that cut, it will probably make a usually bad PPV into a better than average B show. In the overall scheme of things, how many of those 13 million Internet votes from last year they can translate into paying votes is going to be the real story of how successful the show is, because based on the lineup as it looks to be building, it’s doubtful actual buys will be anything special. This also limits voting to the U.S. There will be six matches with some aspect of the match voted on and unlike with the Internet vote where you can vote as often as you want, they are limiting this to each person being able to vote ten times for each match. If they were serious as a real poll, they’d limit it to one, but I think they realize they’ll have a better shot at making money by getting the craziest fans to vote a lot of times than hoping people will pay to vote once. At first, I loved the concept because with so many shows a year, you want several annual concept shows and this sounded like a good one. I was always negative about the shows being on Tuesday, because people are more creatures of habit now than ever and wrestling is a Sunday PPV industry. But when they moved to Sunday and still did bad numbers, I chalked it up to a concept that sounds great, is a unique experience for the wrestlers (who don’t know the results ahead of time, although in most, but not all, cases they do have an indication) who have to work matches without working them out ahead of time, but doesn’t work in practice. Maybe this tweak will change that with the added revenue stream. If it does, expect WWE to work text voting more heavily into the other shows. Last year, they brought Michaels back early after a knee injury to face Orton for the title and it still didn’t draw and I thought that would be at least do average numbers. But because instead of just going with Orton vs. Michaels, they had the fans pick three candidates for the match. They pushed it as Michaels pretty hard, to the point a Hardy lost an Internet poll, but in most cases when you book a PPV with a lack of certainty over who is in the main event (the exception being last year when Cena was injured and everyone knew they were going to get a champion crowned but nobody knew how and it did big), people are more apt to skip it.

At this point, what is announced is Jericho vs. Batista with fans voting for Austin, Michaels or Orton as ref, with the idea they’ll vote in Austin, and Marella defending the IC title with fans voting for Goldust, Honky Tonk Man or Piper as the opponent. . . Regarding WWE creative, there have been pretty massive changes in the original scripts of Raw and Smackdown to how they air. The writing team usually scripts both shows and finishes on Friday, and then presents them to Vince McMahon. At times Vince will rubber stamp them, but of late, the finished product after his changes is often completely changed. Ultimately, no matter who comes up with the ideas at first, it’s always Vince McMahon’s decisions at the end and if anything, it’s moreso these days.

Some notes on August WWE business numbers. The company shipped 164,000 DVD units total for the month. The Rock DVD, which up to this point has shipped 200,000 units to date, is now in fourth place for the year. The top three are the Wrestlemania DVD at 314,000, which is a huge disappointment, HHH at 239,000 and Austin at 228,000. We should get Flair early numbers in a few weeks but that is most likely going to end up No. 5. Web site visitors in August fell to 14.7 million. Total web site merchandise orders for the month averaged 800 per day, which is still a healthy rate for the non-Christmas season.

Melina isn’t expected back in action until January after her heel injury doing a leap off the top rope to the floor in a TV match on the draft Raw show in June.

Elijah Burke, who hasn’t been used in months, was one of many in Texas without power for weeks due to the effects of Hurricane Ike.

There is some second-guessing on the Raw side right now because it’s said more time right now is being put into the characters of Marella and Haas than anyone else. And while Marella is almost always an entertaining segment and Haas had the failed J.R. portrayal but the others have been okay to very good, they are minor characters and neither moves ratings nor are programmed to where they mean money elsewhere. All that talk may have played a part in Haas being relegated to the dark match on the 10/6 Raw. It was the same deal as Hornswoggle last year, where they felt a need to push him since it was an angle that involved Vince. Hornswoggle at least did attract a lot of young kids, which is one of their desired audiences, but a lot of Hornswoggle segments also bombed overall in the Raw ratings (ironically he may have helped ECW at first, although at this point even if he did, that clearly wouldn’t be the case at this point) and he’s become an entertaining but now very minor character.

Jared Bartie was hired to fill the position formerly held by Ed Kaufman as Executive Vice President and General Counsel. Although it was publicly said that Kaufman left on his own after 11 years with the company, most as head of the legal department (Jerry McDevitt handles the high-profile legal cases but Kaufman handled contracts and all the inside work with talent) somehow he ended up on the wrong side of Vince and was let go. The decision was actually made months before he finished up, as they allowed to him to stay and finish projects, as well as make it appear he still had a high profile job while searching for new employment since it’s much easier to find a job when you have a job and say you want a change than having just been dumped. Bartie’s situation was similar, as he worked as the chief administrative officer of the NBA’s Charlotte Bobcats, and the company was doing a business downsizing, laying off 35 office employees.
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