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Old 02 Oct 2008, 05:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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In the WWE due to the move restrictions and health regulations certain once awesome moves have fallen out of favour and replaced with less risky (and less awesome) moves. Like How Bob Lashley's Dominator got phased out for a Spear and a Oklahoma Slam. Lots of Moves have been replaced with less risky moves, Like how Mr. Kennedy started using the Mic Check over both the Kenton Bomb and Second Rope Green Bay Plunge.

Some move changes are just stupid, Like the Mic Check mentioned, They got rid of a Rolling Fireman's Slam in favour or a Shitty Leg Sweep. The Mic Check just doesn't look like a Finisher at all, He grabs them and they fall foward... Rather slowly and awkawdly. I'm sure you can all agree the Undertaker's Triangle Choke is mamy levels of lame but then again the Dude is wreched and he can't really sustain lifting guys up for Tombstones, Chokeslams and Last Rides for much longer.

People I think who need new Finishers and what to

Vladimir:
Counter Headbutt --> Backdrop Bottom (Mark of Excellence)

The Miz
Knee Lift into Neckbreaker (Reality Check) --> Minus the Kneelift, Reverse RKO is enough... Or just go back to using the Mizard of Oz Neckbreaker

Kennedy:
Mic Check --> Green Bay Mic Check (Mic Check from the Second Rope... Or he could actually lift them instead of just falling)

So yeah who do you think needs a new finisher or what move do you want them to bring back into their arsenal?
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what is wrong with the Reality Check that Miz hits? That and his weird clothesline in the corner are the two moves that keep him entertaining enough to watch lol.

I have a real issue with the choke slam as a finisher. I just think its lame. Even when cruiserweights take it. I'd rather see guys like Kane pull off a running powerslam as a finisher or a power bomb variant. Choke slams are way lame imo.

I hate Vladimir's finish too. From what I've seen of the guy he is pretty talented and an inverted DDT is a terrible finish no matter what you call it. His head butt counter I agree would make a much better finish or a bicycle kick.

Jamie Noble is another one that comes to mind. The arm bar he is using as a finisher lately is lame especially cos he barely uses arm isolating moves in his matches. I reckon he should use that running flip into the guy sitting in the turnbuckle move that he does as his finish. That move is fucking awesome.

Oh and I don't even know what Rhodes and Dibiase consider their finishers these days but they should figure that out. They seem to win matches with a variety of roll ups and cheap tactics and no real finishers. But I could have missed something.
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The only one that comes to mind is CM Punk's GTS. The name sucks for one and it looks so easy to counter. Give him the Anaconda Vice again.
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Old 02 Oct 2008, 12:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Jamie Noble is another one that comes to mind. The arm bar he is using as a finisher lately is lame especially cos he barely uses arm isolating moves in his matches. I reckon he should use that running flip into the guy sitting in the turnbuckle move that he does as his finish. That move is fucking awesome
If you're hyper etending a guys arm, basicalyy bending in a way that it isn't supposed to go, most of the time they will have to tap out. You don't have too do a lot of arm work, before applying the move to make it believable. This generation is hugely influenced by MMA, so it's easy to buy Noble's finisher. Plus, it's an easy finisher to buy against bigger opponents.

The move is fine.
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That move in the corner was stolen from Kevin Steen, who stole it from Morishima.

I do agree with Vladmir though, they should stick with the Headbut of DOOM~!
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Benjamin could use a new finisher also. Pay Dirt is awful ,it looks like he's taking a spine buster.

Edge's spear is laughable.

Mike Knox could use a new finisher also.

If Matt Hardy is going to use the Twist of Fate as an finisher. Jeff Hardy needs to stop using it as an set up move for the Swanton. It just makes Matt look like an even bigger joke, opposed to his junkie sibling.
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Angle needs too stop using the Ankle Lock, everybody knows how to counter it.

Turn on your back kick him off.

Flip over and send him flying in to the turnbuckle.

Counter it in to an crossface.
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Oh and I don't even know what Rhodes and Dibiase consider their finishers these days but they should figure that out. They seem to win matches with a variety of roll ups and cheap tactics and no real finishers. But I could have missed something.
Cody uses the DDT and Dibiase uses a Cobra Clutch Russian Leg Sweep...

As Lame as anormal DDT is... the Cobra Clutch Russian looks really fucking dumb
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I never understood the problem with a DDT. If done well, it's still one of the best moves in the business. It's one of those finishers that can be hit out of nowhere and look great. It's been whored out for about 20 years, but if I was an up and coming wrestler, I would make it relevant again. If Orton could make a kick to the head the most feared move in the WWE...I see no reason the DDT shouldn't be a finisher.

Jake The Snake and Raven say FUCK YOU ALL! If you disrespect the DDT.
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Yeah variations of the DDT are fine as finishers. I disagree about the arm bar as a finisher. This is wrestling Truthhh not MMA. I want to see a over the top wrestling finisher not some MMA shit. TNA tried to do worked MMA matches and they sucked arse, having WWE guys do similar stuff is just moving towards that idea which is a bad one.

Oh and I totally agree on the Pay Dirt needing a change and on Edge's spear needing a change.
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That move was a finisher in wrestling, way before MMA became a monster.
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Still doesn't mean I like it or think it looks good.

Oh and Big Show should go back to his cobra clutch back breaker, that was bad arse. Someone should start using a stunner as a finisher as well, that's a great finish and Austin should not have a monopoly on it. I wouldn't mind seeing a jaw breaker be used as a finish by someone as well.
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rey could really use a new finisher. the 619 seems to be about all rey does anymore.

I wish shelton would go back to the t-bone.

and I've always thought that haas would do good with a fishermen's suplex. but i guess that has to be saved for hennig's son.
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I don't know why they scrapped the Haas of Pain, That Finisher was off the fucking hook, one of the best submission moves I've ever seen.

I'd like Shelton to re-visit his old Tigerbomb, I remember he use to be able to pull one off quite cleanly.

Brian kendrick needs a better finisher if he is going to be a Upper Mid carder and potential Main Eventer. The Sliced bread was nice in the Cruiserweight division but he'll need something with more impact and more practical. Hell a 450 would be enough... The guy can kick though, so maybe some sort of Kick would be more appropriate.
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