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Old 14 Oct 2002, 11:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm fuckin' sick. I'm absolutely sick to my stomach after reading some of the posts on this page. You people are ridiculous. How can you slander the WWE like you're doing right now? First of all, RAW was good. It advanced in the storylines, and it kept me riveted. How the fuck can you people critizise the show and say it sucked? Who are you to say who deserves a push? WWE has done nothing (NOTHING) but try and please you people. It's provided both entertainenment and solid wrestling, but all you people do is continue to bitch. RAW has the storylines, Smackdown has the wrestling, and you guys all say this sucks. How can you call yourselves wrestling fans? You all make mention on how "the ratings will continue to drop". DUH! No shit! What do you expect Vince to do about it? Give Booker T. the belt? How will that help his company? Just face it, no matter what Vince does, HE CAN'T turn the ratings around. The wrestling buisness is in another of its downturns that last for YEARS. Can't you understand that the wrestling buisness can't change everything in one week?


I understand that many, if not all of you, are WCW and ECW marks that still cry over their demise. Just be honest with yourself. WCW and ECW died because NOBODY can produce wrestling like Vince McMahon. But yet, you people still believe that your ideas would somehow top his. Why don't you give him a break? He's been in the buisness longer than most of you have been alive. If Eric Bischoff and Paul Heyman can't top him in the wrestling buisness, what chance does the internet wrestling fan have?

Also, what do you mean "Bret Hart was disrespected frequently" on the show? How? 'Cuz they showed his damn image on the Anthology commercial? How is that slapping him in the face? Didn't they also mention several times throughout the show that "this is the place where VINCE screwed BRET"? I don't recall anyone saying "Bret screwed Bret." By the way, as of late, I CAN'T STAND Bret Hart. IMO, he deserved to get screwed. He bit the hand that fed him by refusing to pass the torch, he believed that he was a living hero and he was bigger than the WWF, and now all he does is make press rounds and bitch about how the wrestling buisness has mistreated him. BOO-HOO. This isn't any way for a legend to go down. If Bret was disrespected, WHICH HE WASN'T, he needs a swift kick in the ass anyway.


My major point is that I've been a WWE fan since I was five, and I still am today. It pains me when I see all you bashing the company when it's doing everything it can to improve. It doesn't get nearly enough gratitude these days. If you don't like the WWE, please don't come here and ruin it for people like me. There's a few things I don't like about WWE (HLA, Jerry Lawler) but I try to focus on the positives. Why can't you? Sometimes, I hope the WWE DOES go bankrupt, just so all of you will have nowhere else to go for pro wrestling, and nothing left to bitch about.




Oh wait. I forgot about NWA: TNA. That'll be around a long time. (LOL)
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However as a paying consumer I have a right to be mad when in a wrestling show a wrestle makes mention of another having sex with a dead corpse......BTW EC'Dub mark
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That's what WWE gives you. I myself wasn't too happy with that, but Brian Gerwitz wrote it, HHH said it. How is that Vince's fault? Why call him "a piece of trash" and all that? Also, you're not necessarily a paying consumer if you watch it on free TV. Finally, if you hate it so much, what keeps you coming back? Why bother tuning in next week? What's the point of watching a show just so you can go on the internet as soon as it's over and slander it?
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Wow, bitching about bitching. That cancels eachother out right? No, not quite. Anyways, I will continue to bitch about the usuage of Bret's name on WWE tv. They would be better off just to leave it alone, but they have to contiually bring it up. Its thier own damn faults.
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Old 15 Oct 2002, 12:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
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you left out When one of the stars wife is pregnant and then WWE takes a porn queen on National TV professing to be his mistress...

When Bra and pantie matches become a regular spot on the show as a title match...Not to mention the HLA...

When two big fat ugly guys resort to beat up old ladies and men who are old enough to be there grandparents...

What does professional wrestling have anything to do with that kind of stuff...Nothing at all.
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*claps* I totally agree with MM, sure, you guys deserve to complain if it's not good, but I personally have not yet seen a Raw or Smackdown, that I haven't enjoyed, but some of you guys go way too far!!
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Old 15 Oct 2002, 12:01 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Wow, bitching about bitching. That cancels eachother out right? No, not quite. Anyways, I will continue to bitch about the usuage of Bret's name on WWE tv. They would be better off just to leave it alone, but they have to contiually bring it up. Its thier own damn faults.


Personally, I don't see how mentioning him on TV or using him to promote their album is going to hurt his image. You're entitled to your opinion though.
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then Vince is responsible for it as over and over Vince has stated that nothing goes off the air unless he approves it.So he is to blame for the filth going on right now.
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That's what WWE gives you. I myself wasn't too happy with that, but Brian Gerwitz wrote it, HHH said it. How is that Vince's fault? Why call him "a piece of trash" and all that? Also, you're not necessarily a paying consumer if you watch it on free TV. Finally, if you hate it so much, what keeps you coming back? Why bother tuning in next week? What's the point of watching a show just so you can go on the internet as soon as it's over and slander it?
I never called Vince a piece of trash, and i think digital cable cost me something, and its not to often that I actually watch raw, because the shows of raw always sucked........Everything that has ever come from me has been well backed up and well thought out, I give examples and reasons and comparisons, so when I complain its in a critical manner. Believe it or not without complants MM, WWE wouldn't exist if everyone acted the way you want people to react and just act as if everything is fine and all the wrestling is A-1 and not waterddown and the storylines arn't dis-tasteful then they wouldn't know that some of the shit they do doesn't appeal to the public.....HLA for example with parents walking out of the arena.....would you have had those parents just sit there and not complain for the sake of a false utopia of entertainment.....I hope not.....WWE has changed its product and in the process has left the older fans behind in some ways, you've been watching since you were 5 and I since 4 and it just ain't nearly what it use to be.....If everyone just excepted what people produced to them then people like New Kids on The Block and Damn Yankees would still be around.
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You guys can claim to be true wrestling fans, and claim I'm just a mark. Fine. But the entire wrestling buisness HATES fans like many of you here. Chris Jericho won't even go on the fuckin' internet anymore. The negativity for everything the WWE attempts has been unbelieveable. I can't blame him. You guys find fault with everything. Instead of praising how well the Jericho/Christian match was, you guys are bitching about how Bret Hart has been "exploited". WTF? Instead of giving the WWE credit for attempting to improve their storylines, you're complaining about who needs a "push". Why bother watching it? All you guys do is rip it. I just find it really shameful. I'm proud to be a wrestling fan, and I'll gladly take anything WWE gives me without bitching. What's wrong with that?



BTW, Taker's Bad Girl, I'll bet you ANYTHING I know more about wrestling than you.
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Hey MM go over to the Indy's section i do nothing but give praise, and the most logical reason is because those guys deserve it.....
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That's good. But have you read any of the threads on this page tonight? Have you read the one called "This Show Sucks"? Or "Discuss RAW"? Or "Is Bret Hart coming back"? I filled the sink 7 times after reading all the hate that came forward.
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I'm fuckin' sick. I'm absolutely sick to my stomach after reading some of the posts on this page. You people are ridiculous. How can you slander the WWE like you're doing right now? First of all, RAW was good. It advanced in the storylines, and it kept me riveted. How the fuck can you people critizise the show and say it sucked? Who are you to say who deserves a push? WWE has done nothing (NOTHING) but try and please you people. It's provided both entertainenment and solid wrestling, but all you people do is continue to bitch. RAW has the storylines, Smackdown has the wrestling, and you guys all say this sucks. How can you call yourselves wrestling fans? You all make mention on how "the ratings will continue to drop". DUH! No shit! What do you expect Vince to do about it? Give Booker T. the belt? How will that help his company? Just face it, no matter what Vince does, HE CAN'T turn the ratings around. The wrestling buisness is in another of its downturns that last for YEARS. Can't you understand that the wrestling buisness can't change everything in one week?


I understand that many, if not all of you, are WCW and ECW marks that still cry over their demise. Just be honest with yourself. WCW and ECW died because NOBODY can produce wrestling like Vince McMahon. But yet, you people still believe that your ideas would somehow top his. Why don't you give him a break? He's been in the buisness longer than most of you have been alive. If Eric Bischoff and Paul Heyman can't top him in the wrestling buisness, what chance does the internet wrestling fan have?

Also, what do you mean "Bret Hart was disrespected frequently" on the show? How? 'Cuz they showed his damn image on the Anthology commercial? How is that slapping him in the face? Didn't they also mention several times throughout the show that "this is the place where VINCE screwed BRET"? I don't recall anyone saying "Bret screwed Bret." By the way, as of late, I CAN'T STAND Bret Hart. IMO, he deserved to get screwed. He bit the hand that fed him by refusing to pass the torch, he believed that he was a living hero and he was bigger than the WWF, and now all he does is make press rounds and bitch about how the wrestling buisness has mistreated him. BOO-HOO. This isn't any way for a legend to go down. If Bret was disrespected, WHICH HE WASN'T, he needs a swift kick in the ass anyway.


My major point is that I've been a WWE fan since I was five, and I still am today. It pains me when I see all you bashing the company when it's doing everything it can to improve. It doesn't get nearly enough gratitude these days. If you don't like the WWE, please don't come here and ruin it for people like me. There's a few things I don't like about WWE (HLA, Jerry Lawler) but I try to focus on the positives. Why can't you? Sometimes, I hope the WWE DOES go bankrupt, just so all of you will have nowhere else to go for pro wrestling, and nothing left to bitch about.




Oh wait. I forgot about NWA: TNA. That'll be around a long time. (LOL)
I agree with everythink except the bret hart comments, he did offer to pass the torch and vince is on tape sayin the match would end in dq and bret offered to lose during that week or give it up on raw the next nite, so bret didn'tdeserve what happend but i'm so glad he knocked out vince afterwards i mean serioulsly he got screwed but how cool is it to say that when i come back from the shower if your still here that i'm gonna knock you out and then he actually does it, bret is the best!!!!
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