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Old 13 Sep 2004, 01:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok let me get this straight vince. You push young Randy Orton as a heel for 7 months, then you decide to turn him face which is still ok. But you let him win the title and keep it for a month? This makes the World Heavyweight Championship look really bad and it also makes Orton look bad.

HHH has received enough title rematches i believe and you let him win from the interference of the coach and evolution. Why? You want to push a young star then let him keep the damn belt.

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Old 13 Sep 2004, 01:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ok let me get this straight vince. You push young Randy Orton as a heel for 7 months, then you decide to turn him face which is still ok. But you let him win the title and keep it for a month? This makes the World Heavyweight Championship look really bad and it also makes Orton look bad.

HHH has received enough title rematches i believe and you let him win from the interference of the coach and evolution. Why? You want to push a young star then let him keep the damn belt.

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They shouldn't of pushed Orton as a face yet, should of had him be heel til Royal Rumble and win that. Have him turn towards face as time passes til Wrestlemania where the big match between HHH and Orton would of been great. Instead they did all this bullshit becuz lack of Ratings.
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HHH in the last year......

lost his title to Goldberg, yet was awarded three rematches.....when Goldberg lost, he was given no rematch.....lost his title to Benoit, was awarded three rematches.....when Benoit lost, his rematch was the following night on Raw and he hasn't sniffed the title since then.....

HHH, for all the good he has tried to do, loses any of that luster when you see the fact that he just can't stay out of the title picture.....we'll never know if Benoit could have carried a feud against anyone.....we'll eventually find out if Orton can, but for now he doesn't hold the belt.....

the same things that were said about HHH a year ago can continue to be said.....he's nothing more than a spotlight whore in his own right.....wonder how Truth would have tried to spin this one.....
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Old 13 Sep 2004, 01:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I am sure this has just hurt ratings. Lets see how the rating for raw end up tonight and see if I am correct.
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Old 13 Sep 2004, 01:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Instead they did all this bullshit becuz lack of Ratings.
I don't think it is because of a lack of ratings.....ratings have remained relatively steady for the past two plus years now.....its time for us to look at it in a different way.....

I said as soon as Orton won it was way too soon.....I've got to think that maybe the writers looked at it and said something along the same thing.....the champion needs to be able to carry the feud, and Orton just isn't quite there yet, in my opinion.....
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well the writers should of known this before giving the title to Orton at Summerslam... it makes the title have less credibility plus it gives Orton a bad rep
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HHH in the last year......

lost his title to Goldberg, yet was awarded three rematches.....when Goldberg lost, he was given no rematch.....lost his title to Benoit, was awarded three rematches.....when Benoit lost, his rematch was the following night on Raw and he hasn't sniffed the title since then.....

HHH, for all the good he has tried to do, loses any of that luster when you see the fact that he just can't stay out of the title picture.....we'll never know if Benoit could have carried a feud against anyone.....we'll eventually find out if Orton can, but for now he doesn't hold the belt.....

the same things that were said about HHH a year ago can continue to be said.....he's nothing more than a spotlight whore in his own right.....wonder how Truth would have tried to spin this one.....
well said....HHH is a spotlight whore. How do they expect to keep things going at a high when it is the same heel in the main event all the time. Trips find someone decent to feud with outside of the championship level for once and give someone else a shot.
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Instead they did all this bullshit becuz lack of Ratings.
They probably rushed it because Trips didn't want to work with Eugene anymore.

Oh, and what connection did Coach have to the whole thing anyway?
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They probably rushed it because Trips didn't want to work with Eugene anymore.

Oh, and what connection did Coach have to the whole thing anyway?

coach ran down and was trying to be a ref i believe......
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coach ran down and was trying to be a ref i believe......
I know that, but what connection did he have to the storyline that warranted a run in by him?
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I know that, but what connection did he have to the storyline that warranted a run in by him?
Coach is Bischoff's puppet. Bishcoff gives in to HHH, so he sent Coach down to try to get the title on HHH. Plus, Bischoff dislikes Orton, so he sent his puppet down to screw him out of the belt
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Vince finally got tired of "Canihavethebeltbacknowdad?Canihavethebeltbacknowd ad?Canihavethebeltbacknowdad?Canihavethebeltbackno wdad?Canihavethebeltbacknowdad?Canihavethebeltback nowdad?Canihavethebeltbacknowdad?Canihavethebeltba cknowdad?Canihavethebeltbacknowdad?Canihavethebelt backnowdad?Canihavethebeltbacknowdad?Canihavethebe ltbacknowdad?Canihavethebeltbacknowdad?Canihavethe beltbacknowdad?Canihavethebeltbacknowdad?Canihavet hebeltbacknowdad?Canihavethebeltbacknowdad?"

I have no doubt.... He is just not good for the company despite being the reason a lot of people watch (Yeah I know there really is. Not kidding.). I had serious faith in Orton...Even though I already knew orton would lose...
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I feel so bad for the WWE wrestlers. Between the McMahon's (including HHH) egos and the stupid ass writers they are fucked. The WWE has been a shitfest since Wrestlemania 2001 and is still going south.

Oops, I forgot, the Diva search has brought ratings up big time.(insert major sarcasm now)

Well at least Vince is focusing on things now, with the two upcoming WWE movies, work out clothing line, energy drink and other retarded stuff he has no business doing. Business is sure to go up, up, up.

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It's not that it came too early IMO,it's that iwas done very wrong.They didn't have to turn him babyface.He could've stayed heel and just beefed with Evo for a long time,he didn't have to start being friends with Benoit or interfere in Eugene's match.He could've easily let trips win,then go in there and beat him up.I dunno,I'm not looking at it from both perspectives so I'm probably missing something here.Maybe Benoit could've retained at SS and kept it till Unforgiven,then Orton can win the Royal Rumble,then HHH will win it sometime before WMXXl and boom! You got yourself a WM21 main event baby!
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