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Old 12 Jul 2004, 07:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I enjoy the Internet, but Iím not a fan of constant negativity when it comes to our business. Iím aware of the fact that the Internet wrestling community is slightly influential in the progression of the wrestling business. Thatís cool by me -- it could and should help the business expand and get better. You would think anyone in the business or a fan of the business would do their best to build upon the positives. My biggest gripe is the negativity the Internet is breeding due to people being desensitized and one-dimensional when it comes to our product. I want the "wrestling negativity snowball" to stop, or at least slow down for the good of the entire sports-entertainment business. Too many people read someoneís opinion on the Internet and take it as factual information. Itís way too often that the majority of the Internet wrestling community takes a writerís view and lazily allows that to become their view. My challenge to all of you is to question opinions. Donít take opinions as facts; donít even take them as good opinions. Come to your own conclusions. If you find something enjoyable that others donít, that doesnít mean youíre wrong in liking it.

A majority of Internet writers are one-dimensional when it comes to their opinions on the wrestling business. The main concern to many who cover or comment about wrestling on the Internet is the in-ring product. If the matches on a show arenít long enough, arenít athletic enough, or donít score high enough on their ratings system, then the show was no good to them. Thatís not the case. Iím a huge fan of the in-ring product, but Iíve learned thatís not the only thing our broad fan base cares about. The majority of our fans like wrestling, but they also enjoy the entertainment aspect that only WWE provides. Vince McMahonís sports-entertainment theory obviously works because weíre the dominate force in the wrestling business that has outlasted every other organization.

Quick example: A portion of the Internet writers dislike the current Matt-Lita-Kane saga, but every week it is one of the most-watched segments of the show and gets a ton of feedback and reaction. As of this morning, myself and Kane were the most anticipated match on the show Sunday according to fan votes on WWE.com. Obviously, there is interest in our conflict that has people talking and watching.

Quick example No. 2: A portion of the Internet writers donít think Lita is that great of a WWE performer or asset to the company. For whatever reasons, they arenít Lita fans, whether it is her in-ring skills or character or whatever. Youíre wrong. She is the most popular and successful woman currently in the wrestling business. Success isnít measured solely by how great of a wrestler you are. Never has been, never will be. She is talented in so many ways that some people just donít know and canít see from the surface. Go to WWEShopZone.com, pull down the Superstars menu, and look how many girls have their own merchandise section. Thereís only one, and thatís Lita. Do some research and find out which female has had the most action figures made of them. Look at the number of Lita signs in the crowd every week during RAW. I could give you examples all night. These are the things that ultimately determine how successful and popular you are. Lita attracts people far and wide, and has brought more new fans to the WWE than any other Diva.

Until someone has worked within the sports-entertainment business, they really have no idea how things work and what makes things successful. There are many aspects of the wrestling business that only people on the inside understand. Itís impossible to be on the outside of this business and understand how everything works within it. My main objective is to educate anyone who follows the wrestling business into being open-minded. Donít be so narrowed-minded that you only see things from one viewpoint. To attempt to understand and fairly view our product, you have to be able to think outside the lines. You have to be able to see the full spectrum, the big picture, not just one point of view.

If you disagree with everything Iíve said and you think you know everything there is to know about the wrestling business, I have a challenge for you. If you have all the right answers of what would make a wrestling company successful, start your own company. With your superior knowledge of the wrestling business, your promotion should be competing with WWE in no time. Put your money where your mouth is. And before you say that suggestion is ridiculous, I did it before I even knew how the business really worked. I started and ran the small OMEGA promotion before I worked with WWE. Iím sure I would have an organization of my own right now if I didnít work for the McMahons

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My response to that?

I'm sorry Matt Hardy, but if you have a problem with internet fans who are no longer willing to be fed crap on a weekly basis without voicing complaint, then you vastly underestimated us. We good sir, never pretended to know how to run a federation. But that doesn't disqualify us from noticing and being annoyed by obvious flaws in the product. What you want Matt Hardy, are sheep. I won't apologize for not being one, and I won't stop voicing my opinion about wrestling when it is obviosly low grade at the moment. I don't need to know the missing special inside information of the business to know why something so obviously sucks or why I do not like it. Whatever inside info that is prevey only to wrestling staff, is not only not my concern, but not my problem. That is your problem. It is your job to make the top secret wheel turn properly, and I am not obligated to enjoy unentertaining television merely because you are experiencing problems beyond my scope of understanding. You get paid well to make it work. Buy a kleenex, cry in it, and stop throwing blame at us when we refuse to nibble on useless bait.
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dont ya get it , hes saying that some internet fans are ok but the ones that never say jack-shit when WWE is good are all wankers
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I'm sorry Matt Hardy, but if you have a problem with internet fans who are no longer willing to be fed crap on a weekly basis without voicing complaint, then you vastly underestimated us. We good sir, never pretended to know how to run a federation. But that doesn't disqualify us from noticing and being annoyed by obvious flaws in the product. What you want Matt Hardy, are sheep. I won't apologize for not being one, and I won't stop voicing my opinion about wrestling when it is obviosly low grade at the moment. I don't need to know the missing special inside information of the business to know why something so obviously sucks or why I do not like it. Whatever inside info that is prevey only to wrestling staff, is not only not my concern, but not my problem. That is your problem. It is your job to make the top secret wheel turn properly, and I am not obligated to enjoy unentertaining television merely because you are experiencing problems beyond my scope of understanding. You get paid well to make it work. Buy a kleenex, cry in it, and stop throwing blame at us when we refuse to nibble on useless bait.
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It looks like what he's doing is picking out the few people who have the balls to voice their opinions when they think something sucks. He's also WAY out of line to say that thoughs few people who do say something isn't working, doesn't know a thing about what goes on to make a storyline good. Well what Matt's problem is is that he's picking up the "F the fans I know what they want" attitude that the WWE has today. So here's a little tip for Matt...if the fans say something sucks...IT DOES!!!
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I'm sorry Matt Hardy, but if you have a problem with internet fans who are no longer willing to be fed crap on a weekly basis without voicing complaint, then you vastly underestimated us. We good sir, never pretended to know how to run a federation. But that doesn't disqualify us from noticing and being annoyed by obvious flaws in the product. What you want Matt Hardy, are sheep. I won't apologize for not being one, and I won't stop voicing my opinion about wrestling when it is obviosly low grade at the moment. I don't need to know the missing special inside information of the business to know why something so obviously sucks or why I do not like it. Whatever inside info that is prevey only to wrestling staff, is not only not my concern, but not my problem. That is your problem. It is your job to make the top secret wheel turn properly, and I am not obligated to enjoy unentertaining television merely because you are experiencing problems beyond my scope of understanding. You get paid well to make it work. Buy a kleenex, cry in it, and stop throwing blame at us when we refuse to nibble on useless bait.
I couldn't of said it better myself. Besides Matt is pretty much a low carder nowadays. Why is he complaining so much?
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I couldn't of said it better myself. Besides Matt is pretty much a low carder nowadays. Why is he complaining so much?
Just my theory

Bashing the net can create a lot of heat among fans. We all know the JBL story and Ric Flair got heat by bashing net fans for not being "kayfabe". I know we won't see a Matt heel turn in the forseeable future, but this is odd considering the IWC likes Matt a lot.
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I'm sorry Matt Hardy, but if you have a problem with internet fans who are no longer willing to be fed crap on a weekly basis without voicing complaint, then you vastly underestimated us. We good sir, never pretended to know how to run a federation. But that doesn't disqualify us from noticing and being annoyed by obvious flaws in the product. What you want Matt Hardy, are sheep. I won't apologize for not being one, and I won't stop voicing my opinion about wrestling when it is obviosly low grade at the moment. I don't need to know the missing special inside information of the business to know why something so obviously sucks or why I do not like it. Whatever inside info that is prevey only to wrestling staff, is not only not my concern, but not my problem. That is your problem. It is your job to make the top secret wheel turn properly, and I am not obligated to enjoy unentertaining television merely because you are experiencing problems beyond my scope of understanding. You get paid well to make it work. Buy a kleenex, cry in it, and stop throwing blame at us when we refuse to nibble on useless bait.
I couldn't have said it better myself,great post Crimson,I'm also with ST on this one and wondering why Matt is complaining,Norm also made a good point that Matt is well liked by the IWC.
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My resposne to that?

I'm sorry Matt Hardy, but if you have a problem with internet fans who are no longer willing to be fed crap on a weekly basis without voicing complaint, then you vastly underestimated us. We good sir, never pretended to know how to run a federation. But that doesn't disqualify us from noticing and being annoyed by obvious flaws in the product. What you want Matt Hardy, are sheep. I won't apologize for not being one, and I won't stop voicing my opinion about wrestling when it is obviosly low grade at the moment. I don't need to know the missing special inside information of the business to know why something so obviously sucks or why I do not like it. Whatever inside info that is prevey only to wrestling staff, is not only not my concern, but not my problem. That is your problem. It is your job to make the top secret wheel turn properly, and I am not obligated to enjoy unentertaining television merely because you are experiencing problems beyond my scope of understanding. You get paid well to make it work. Buy a kleenex, cry in it, and stop throwing blame at us when we refuse to nibble on useless bait.
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Wow guess Ric Flair won't move aside for a moment and let Matt give HHH a blowjob too.

He didn't even mention HHH.

Unlike Flair who'de bend over and take a good ass reaming while preaching about HHH.
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It looks like what he's doing is picking out the few people who have the balls to voice their opinions when they think something sucks. He's also WAY out of line to say that thoughs few people who do say something isn't working, doesn't know a thing about what goes on to make a storyline good. Well what Matt's problem is is that he's picking up the "F the fans I know what they want" attitude that the WWE has today. So here's a little tip for Matt...if the fans say something sucks...IT DOES!!!

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I'm sorry Matt Hardy, but if you have a problem with internet fans who are no longer willing to be fed crap on a weekly basis without voicing complaint, then you vastly underestimated us. We good sir, never pretended to know how to run a federation. But that doesn't disqualify us from noticing and being annoyed by obvious flaws in the product. What you want Matt Hardy, are sheep. I won't apologize for not being one, and I won't stop voicing my opinion about wrestling when it is obviosly low grade at the moment. I don't need to know the missing special inside information of the business to know why something so obviously sucks or why I do not like it. Whatever inside info that is prevey only to wrestling staff, is not only not my concern, but not my problem. That is your problem. It is your job to make the top secret wheel turn properly, and I am not obligated to enjoy unentertaining television merely because you are experiencing problems beyond my scope of understanding. You get paid well to make it work. Buy a kleenex, cry in it, and stop throwing blame at us when we refuse to nibble on useless bait.

You two have saved me the trouble of going into this.

ST I could see where JBL and Flair would want to make people on the internet mad at them. They are heels. But the only people who even like Matt Hardy are on the internet. Not to mention the fact that having him talk like that about internet fans is like having Barry Howoritz(sp) chastize Independent Wrestling reporters back in the 80's. Either way a jobber is complaining, when he is the one who should be on the other side. And I like Hardy n shit, but he is off his mark on this.......
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I didn't said anything about the JBL and Flair rant.

Matt Hardy is a jobber right now and IMO his internet fan bashin could make him look good with the boss and probably he's giving a Blowjob to get a decent push and he could finally get out of Jobbervile and be a mediocre mid carder.
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Matt Hardy is a jobber right now and IMO his internet fan bashin could make him look good with the boss and probably he's giving a Blowjob to get a decent push and he could finally get out of Jobbervile and be a mediocre mid carder.

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It's alright bro

Here are the reasons of the threee latest internet fan bashings. IMO of course

Bradshaw: He did it to create some heat no doubt. Since there was a lot of doubt from him and the latest whinning cause he got a "mega push" like some wrestlers call ithe decided to blast them and their fans hard. This would make him a more credible heel and right after the first title fight everyone got quiet and had to eat their words.

Ric Flair: He did cause he's an attention whore and wants to have his name on some kind of news at least twice a month so nobody would forget about him. His comments were filled with hypocresy and made him look like an ass since the "insider" talk isn't so insider anymore and since on most sports there is insider talk his words just simply fell apart.

Matt Hardy: He did it out of fustration. He's a low carder, does Velocity or Heat shows once in a while, nobody pretty much cares for him so what to do? Well start talking crap without a drop of sense. He pretty much backstabbed his own fanbase wich is located mainly on the web. Also he needed to look good with the boss so he had to play company suck-up. So sad thou maybe he should just disappear from wrestling he'll do us all a favor.
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Yeah I think depending on who we talk about makes for different reasons.

Lance Storm- Truly thinks people give a flying fuck what he has to say. He has this holyer then thou approuch to most things. A way of talking out of his ass, like he can do no wrong yet everyone who doesn't live a straight edge clean cut life, most have some sort of problem. Oddly for a person who wants others to be the like him, he has never been the MAN him self....

Ric Flair- Truly believes he is the President of the Universe. With his contridicting statements and hypocritcal comments, which almost always clash against his previous interview. I could go on for hours about how wrong he is but most of the time I agree with the asshole. Exspecially about Foley. I've been saying that shit for years and finally someone with clout says the exact same thing. To bad Flair doesn't make sense a lot of the time when he speaks as of late.......

Bradshaw- Truly did go after internet fans to grab more heat, and I think it was a brilliant idea and done with such a great touch that internet dorks like Wade Keller even bit the bait. Bradshaw was able to take it up one level. And I still say he and Teddy Hart are two of the great heels in prowrestling today. They have both worlds actually hating them. The internet fans as well as the casual ones. And that is very hard to do. Bradshaw talked the talk and then he backed it up much to everyones dismay inside of the ring. So much people were looking for a reason to shit on his match. Claiming 'to much blood' this and 'if there wasn't any blood' that. Truly Bradshaw is one of the best heels in WWE, and he did it in a manor that no one else is useing today. Which makes him sort of a trailblazer.

Matt Hardy- See like Lance Storm most of his fans are on the internet, so bashing them does nothing. Most likly he thinks people will actually chage from his comments. He wants to push the blame off the WWE and on to the loyal fans who watch the product when it is complete shit; through thick and then. Complaining about the only people who will actaully watch a shitty product is non-productive, and Hardy most likly will not realize this. That is why he is involved in a shitty storyline, with some of the worse acting I've seen since 94's ABC after school special. My goodness Lita really makes this angle worse then it has to be. Hardy doesn't want to admit the fact that maybe just maybe it isn't always the fans who are the problem, but the product itself. Or has he not noticed the Tag, Cruiser and Womens division looking like complete jokes..........
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