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Old 29 Jun 2004, 11:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Eugene, who was brought into the WWE basically as a comic figure has done a great jop of attracting attention and crowd pops from the crowd. Not that that's a bad thing, but I seriously doubt he will be able to attract the crowd pops he regularly does.

Although Eugene is decent in ring, nothing special, but he is solid in his execution, and maneovers, however, Eugene will be NOTHING but a joke in the near future. I am pretty sure, the crowd will end up becoming bored of the same old thing with Eugene, and stop caring! I have never liked Eugene, and I never will, mainly because I do not find the storyline that he holds to be interesting in the least bit. If someone "special" like Eugene wants to achieve his dream or goal in life and make it into the WWE business as a storyline is entertaining, you have all lost you're marbles. Eugene's gimmick is quiet similar to that of Zack Gowen's, yet he failed, and the same will happen with Eugene!


Yeah, it's true, Eugene will be a joke in the WWE, I guarentee it in the near future.

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Old 29 Jun 2004, 11:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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While you compare Eugene to Zach Gowen, I do see similarities, but the most striking difference is that Zach REALLY had only one leg. Nick Dinsmore PLAYS a retarded character, so he can change. I'm not sure how WWE will have him become un-retarded, but it's the WWE so it doesn't really matter.


Once Eugene the Retard gets stale, WWE will probably change it and he'll be normal and actually wrestle to his FULL capabilities.

I myself am a fan of Eugene and I like the storyline a lot. I think it's funny as hell. I also love how HHH is manipulating him week in and week out, simply because he's Eugene's favorite superstar. The storyline can go so many ways and lead to so many feuds, just because of how they have handled it. HHH can get Eugene to feud with anyone he wants to basically.


Until it's over, I'm gonna be into the storyline and the Eugene character
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Old 29 Jun 2004, 11:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I agree, that in time Eugene will be nothing more then a joke. I said that his gimmick could only go but so far. There is no way that Eugene can possiably be taken as a serious competitor in the ring down the line. I made a thread a while back about how Nick D's wrestling was better then his gimmick, and therefore in the long run he would be short changed.

One thing is that he is solid inside of the ring and better then a lot of the mid upper carders they have in the spotlight now. Its a shame that this gimmick most likly will overshadow his career as a whole.

Pretty soon the luster of Eugene will run its course and when it does, I will bump my old thread and laugh like I always do.....



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As long as they keep Eugene away from the top of the card, or away from any titles [with exception of tag team, its a joke now anyway] I'm perfectly fine with it. Actually, I enjoy the character.

When the retard gimmick gets stale they'll just play off the story that Bischoff fired him. Then a couple weeks later, with a new look, Dinsmore will be back.
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Old 30 Jun 2004, 03:56 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Now if the wwe plays their cards right they could par-le the Eugene gimmick to George "the Animal" Steele status. He plays the gimmick to a "T", he can wrestle, plus Eugene can be spun and brought back from so many "turns" it makes my mind spin.

Take a good look at "the Animal" and the success he achieved, I can see the Eugene character doing the same.
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Old 30 Jun 2004, 04:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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he phycology of a eugene match is like that of any other "underdog character's" matches.

he heel sees the underdog as a joke, and doesnt take him seriousely, and then gets repeatedly outwrestled and out maneuvered.

the troublee is tha t eventually a heel will take the face as a serious challenger and kill him, like lesnar did to gowen.

i see the best thing to do is have eugene eventually go from "retard" to "psycho" like how manking was in his 1st mankind character.
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I like the storyline thus far but after its over, I'm not going to think much of Eugene, I just recently got into the storyline for the HHH manipulating him, but a good idea to turn him un-retarded would be, maybe just someone doing a sick chairshot and WWE could claim that knocked the dumb out of him and hes normal now, thats what I would do, after this storyline is over.
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Nick Dinsmore PLAYS a retarded character, so he can change. I'm not sure how WWE will have him become un-retarded, but it's the WWE so it doesn't really matter.
Just put a mask on him and change the name. With how stupid most of the fans are, the mask might not evben be necessary.
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Old 30 Jun 2004, 09:26 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Now if the wwe plays their cards right they could par-le the Eugene gimmick to George "the Animal" Steele status. He plays the gimmick to a "T", he can wrestle, plus Eugene can be spun and brought back from so many "turns" it makes my mind spin.

Take a good look at "the Animal" and the success he achieved, I can see the Eugene character doing the same.
This is exactly what I've been saying in several forums. Eugene is literaly the encarnation of George "The Animal" Steele. If WWE doesn't screw up the gimmick Dismore could reach a high status like Steele did. Most people here should remember Steele. He played the role of a retard and he was incredibly successfull, he even made it a hall of famer so if things go right we can see a repetition right here. I just hope they don't screw up.
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This wasn't Eugene's first gimmick in the WWE...he used to be Doink the Clown...I really thought someone else would've pointed that out by now. Also if they put over Eugene as the next George Steele I think it'd be a longshot because George Steele actually looked like a gentle beast while Eugene just looks like a chubby guy who I wouldn't think twice about if I saw him in a toll booth.
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true about the fan thing . i was argueing with someone who thought eugene was a real spacko
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While you compare Eugene to Zach Gowen, I do see similarities, but the most striking difference is that Zach REALLY had only one leg. Nick Dinsmore PLAYS a retarded character, so he can change. I'm not sure how WWE will have him become un-retarded, but it's the WWE so it doesn't really matter.


Once Eugene the Retard gets stale, WWE will probably change it and he'll be normal and actually wrestle to his FULL capabilities.

I myself am a fan of Eugene and I like the storyline a lot. I think it's funny as hell. I also love how HHH is manipulating him week in and week out, simply because he's Eugene's favorite superstar. The storyline can go so many ways and lead to so many feuds, just because of how they have handled it. HHH can get Eugene to feud with anyone he wants to basically.


Until it's over, I'm gonna be into the storyline and the Eugene character
I couldn't have said it better myself,I completely agree with everything that Stick said.
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i see the best thing to do is have eugene eventually go from "retard" to "psycho" like how manking was in his 1st mankind character.
I think thats what we are about to see, he'll just have HHH in his ear.


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Although Eugene is decent in ring, nothing special, but he is solid in his execution, and maneovers, however, Eugene will be NOTHING but a joke in the near future. I am pretty sure, the crowd will end up becoming bored of the same old thing with Eugene, and stop caring! I have never liked Eugene, and I never will, mainly because I do not find the storyline that he holds to be interesting in the least bit. If someone "special" like Eugene wants to achieve his dream or goal in life and make it into the WWE business as a storyline is entertaining, you have all lost you're marbles. Eugene's gimmick is quiet similar to that of Zack Gowen's, yet he failed, and the same will happen with Eugene!
Eugene and Zach's gimmcks are similar, but their apporach is diffrent. Zach was a sob story and WWE pushed it that way with talks about his trips to the hospital and such. Eugene is like Timmy and Jimmy from South Park, their handicap becomes part of the comedy and they are laughed with more than laughed at.
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I like Eugene. Give the man credit he plays a retard excellently. He also obviously has some severe mat skills which are only hampered by his character. I just wish they would do something more funny with him like they did in the beginning. I also wouldnt be upset to see him win the title. In this way though. HHH manipulates him into helping him win the title in a three way match and Eugene seeing as how he is trying to be like HHH hits him with a sledgehammer from behind to get the pin.
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Also I hated Zach. Even though he is from Michigan he always seemed snobby and acted like he deserved special treatment due to having one leg. Also I thought his wrestling was horrible.
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