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Old 18 May 2004, 04:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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In These High Profile Title Match were each Oppoent has given all and has pulled out all the stops, When they're standing on pure adernerline and spirit, When it over-shadows at WM Main Event and then With a Simple Distraction and a Quick Roll-Up The Match Is Over, Aren't You Sick of these half assed Endings, Almost All the Time the Heel Doing it Doesn't get as Much Heat for doing it and It also Makes him look Weak. I obvious base this on the Edge vs Randy Match where Both Guys heild one hell of a match then Randy Takes advantage of a Missed Spear by Rolling Up And Holding the tights (Which Do Nothing By The Way) and that 20 Minute Match of Brillance and Skill is Ruined by a Half Assed Ending like That.

Bottom Line, I Do Not Like That Move
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Old 18 May 2004, 09:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The roll-up works when it is an actual reverse of another guys move. EX: A splash from the top rope turned into a roll-up by using the jumper's momentum. Roll-ups like that work very well IMO. But roll-ups after a distraction, which has followed many "intense" moves, are shit. Yes, I am sick of them too, but what can you replace it with?
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Well..To start off..The Orton/Edge Match...was far from a thing of beauty in my mind...Roll-ups can often be used as a way to continue a feud...espeically if the heel holds the tights..But they Are used way to often..but Like Ut Said..What can you do about it?..
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Well It was just an example.....
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Well, I don't like it under those conditions. I believe that there is no point in other "pinning pradicaments" than those after the finisher unless something like that (distraction) happens. No one ever loses unless a finisher is done or by devious means.
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It happens in matches so much because guys don't want to put someone else over cleanly, so they give em a shit ending so it's not as bad for whoever looses, usually a face. Shit endings are shit, but it's just a way to keep a fued alive. I used to scream at the TV when Cena could not get a clean pin over anybody in his build up against Lesnar. Crap endings are almost as insulting to the wrestlers as they are to the fans, but it makes for moments where Y2J finally forced Christian to tap out mean something real.
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Well..To start off..The Orton/Edge Match...was far from a thing of beauty in my mind...
Thank You, they needed Flair to come out to even get the crowd interested in the match.

But the roll up to me isn't that bad. Better then the Ref bump that happens all the time now. I think that in order to do a good roll-up you need some type of leverage(sp?), as in holding on to the ropes or having you feet up against someone. But holding the tights really doens't do anything. The small package I also think is a great quick way to surprise and end a match.
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yep, small package is a great quick ending.....

the roll up is boring to me, because it is too predictable.....but, as Dre said, the ref bump is an all too common theme that occurs now, and I'd rather see a roll up than the ref getting knocked out by being pushed into the corner.....
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Well I would have to agree on the Grounds that the ref bump is insanly Ludacris, Seriously i've seen Some Refs that have stayed down for a good 10 minutes because a Wrestler was Irish Whipped into them, Seriously how weak and megere do they want to protry the refs as? I Don't See how having Chris Run into You will Knock You out for 10 minutes or even making you incapable to count to 3 by smacking your hands on a mat.
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