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About 31 months ago, World Wrestling Federation Entertainment made
history by buying their competition. It was like Coke buying Pepsi, like
Manchester United buying Arsenal or like Paul McCartney buying the
rights to Steps. It was a time of great excitement for all wrestling fans, realising that their dream feud of WWF vs. WCW could now be realised. WWF signed many WCW stars to get the brand back on its feet again, but it didn’t quite work out the way did it…

Now, in no particular order, here are your former WCW stars and what happened to them:

Sean O'Haire - Sean was originally used as one of The Undertaker and
Kane's punchbags when he made his WWF debut. Not allowed to use his
Seanton Bomb (Jeff Hardy had that market covered) he and Chuck Palumbo
were relieved of the WCW World Tag-Team titles and whilst Palumbo moved
onto pastures new, our Sean was banished to developmental territory. He
showed up once again on WWE television at the start of 2003, playing a
manipulative individual, telling us to give in to temptation et cetera.
This angle could have worked had he not been inexplicably paired up with
Roddy Piper. O'Haire has been buried ever since Piper left under 'mutual
agreement' with the WWE. Despite being tall, charismatic and
musclebound, the WWE does not seem to want to find a place for the
youngster. Curious.

Lance Storm - Lance Storm, former ECW Tag Champion, WCW US, Tag and Hardcore Champion. The man hailing from Calgary, Alberta, Canada had an
excellent run in ECW with Justin Credible and in WCW had a series of
good bouts with Booker T. If anyone was going to make in the WWF/E
surely it was to be Lance? No. Unfortunately, in the eyes of the booker
men, Mr. Storm lacked charisma - despite his 'If I can be serious for a
minute...' promo successes previously. Storm has always been teamed with
guys in the WWE because the writers just have no idea how to market him.
He's been with the Hurricane, The Un-Americans, an associate of Jericho,
William Regal, Chief Morley, Goldust and now he's back with Val 'Chief
Morley' Venis. What's more he was ridiculed by Steve Austin live every
Monday on Raw for about a month! I don't know what the writers were
trying to achieve with this but it is not the situation a great grappler
should be put in.

Mike Awesome - Things looked promising for the Gladiatorial One, in the
beginning. I believe it was future Alliance ally Rhyno he drilled in MSG
to be the first Alliance competitor to win a WWF title (the Hardcore
Title being the strap in question). But then it all went horribly wrong.
Mr. Awesome got stuck with the label everyone in wrestling fears:
'difficult to work with'. This label was given to him by fellow big man
The Undertaker. After Callaway gave him this reputation, it was banishment to the weekend shows for Mike. Released not long after, the last I heard of Awesome he was working in the indies and in Japan.

Kaz Hayashi - Almost immediately sent to developmentalland, Kaz quickly
became unsettled. And who could blame him? The WWE would rather turn
guys like Christian and Test, making them Alliance cohorts, than call up
some of the genuine WCW guys. Hayashi probably also saw that WWE's
promise to create a world-leading Cruiserweight division would never
come to fruition. Kaz had the balls to quit and leave the WWE. Currently
wrestling for All Japen Pro Wrestling.

Elix Skipper - A similar story to the previous. He too was sent to the
developmentals and got a little fed up waiting for the call up. Feeling
patronised by the 'green' label, he upped sticks to go it alone and has
since achieved relative succes across indies and NWA:TNA.

'Sugar' Shane Helms/The Hurricane - He took part in the second all-WCW
match on WWF television, when the WWF were trying to promote a new WCW
(before Vince said 'oh sod it, lets kill em off'). He was rechristened
with his actual name, Gregory, as the bookers thought two Shane's on one
show was more than the stupid viewing public could handle. He
dropped his Cruiser Title to Chavo Guerrero Jr. As the Alliance evolved
he did too - becoming The Hurricane: a tribute to sucky superhero The
Green Lantern. Has had brief runs with the Cruiserweight, Tag, European
and Hardcore titles but nothing particularly meaningful. Just look at
this weeks Raw as evidence that mild-mannered Gregory’s alter-ego is
never going to climb the ladder despite being immensely talented. Which
is a shame. Hurricane however is ideal for the Cruiserweight division
and I’m sure he’d be better off on Smackdown.

Lash LaRoux and Kid Romeo – See Elix Skipper/Kaz Hayashi. I have no idea where either the former WCW Tag Team Champion or the former
Cruiserweight Tag Team Champion are now.

Alan Funk/Kwee Wee – I may be wrong in saying this but I think the former Kwee Wee was released quite early into his WWF tenure. Has turned up on various indies, toured with WWA, but recently suffered from horrendous
facial injuries in a match on a card in Finland.

Hugh Morrus / Bill DeMott – Had the prestige of being the second WCW
invader (Lance Storm was the first) but that’s about as big as it got
for the former Hugh G. Rection. Was dismissed by Steve Austin from the
Alliance and dropped his humorous name. Became a Cruiserweight crusher
in a pointless exercise but has recently retired through injury.
Currently resides alongside the woeful Josh Matthews in the Velocity
commentary box.

Billy Kidman – Billy’s never really had the chance. I think it’s a case
of his face doesn’t fit, either that its because he’s vetoed several
storyline proposals for wife Torrie. He’s been given a couple of runs
with the Cruiserweight belt, but nothing staggering. When he’s held the
belt the title tends to have been demoted to weekend show hell. Although
his matches with Tajiri and Jamie Noble were impressive the WWE doesn’t
want to push Mr. Torrie Wilson. Most entertaining run he’s been given
was when he teamed with Rey Mysterio this summer – but that was getting
him over, so the writers put a stop to that.

Shawn Stasiak – I was surprised he was actually picked up by the WWF,
given that he left under such acrimonious circumstances just over a year
previous. Pushed to the high heavens for reasons only the WCW bookers
knew why when he jumped, Shawn was brought back to Earth with a bump
when he re-debuted at WWF. He resumed his role as a jobber-boy and was
saddled with the ridiculous Planet Stasiak gimmick. Released last year.

Chavo Guerrero – Things did not look good for Chavo in the beginning
despite being given a Cruiser reign early on. I believe he was even
demoted to backstage interviewer at one point. Things started to look up
for him however last year when he cut a killer promo and subsequently
had an excellent match with the debuting Rey Mysterio. Curiously this
all coincided with Uncle Eddie’s return. Was part of the excellent 3-way
feud with Eddie/Benoit/Angle/Edge/Mysterio late 2002 and is still (at
time of writing) oart of the top contenders for WWE Tag-Team of the
Year. However that split will happen soon and I think Velocity will be
calling Chavo after a feud with Uncle Eddie is through.

Chuck Palumbo – Another former WCW Tag-Team Champion (man, they threw those belts about a bit didn’t they), but Chuck never headed to
obscurity. He ditched O’Haire and WCW during the promotional feud in
autumn 2001, and teamed with Billy Gunn. They developed into a
pseudo-homosexual tag-team and were preening, dancing, self-loving fools. Stylist/publicist Rico staged their gay wedding/blessing and it turned out neither were gay and that it was all done for the publicity. Sheesh. After that, they jobbed in the first round of the Smackdown Tag Title tournament. Billy got injured (again!) and Chuck let his dark hair grow back to become a weekend show nobody. Subsequently teamed up with Jonny Stamboli and Nunzio to become the FBI

Mark Jindrak – Was almost immediately sent to OVW, being adjudged as too green. Recently returned to our screens with Garrison Cade to form a
not-so charismatic duo. They still don’t really have a gimmick or a
name. What does the WWE have against giving tag-teams names these days.

Stacy Keibler – A huge success story. Probably the sexiest diva in the
WWE has managed the likes of the Dudley Boys, Test and Scott Steiner.
She’s been Vince’s PA too. Currently stuck in a pretty sucky storyline
where she is being abused by Test and Scott Steiner. This angle is
actually pretty damn low for the WWE to sink to. Male violence on women
should always be caricatured on WWE TV, it should not seem as real or as
sick. Will Playboy call? I doubt it until she has a boob job – which I
applaud her for avoiding.

Torrie Wilson – Another huge success story. She jumped to WWE to become Tajiri’s girlfriend in a relationship that didn’t last. Her ‘father’ had
an affair with Dawn Marie, he croaked, she and Dawn Marie had a few
bitchfights, she became a Playboy cover girl and feuded with original
cover girl Sable.

Jason Jett/E.Z. Money – I’m not sure what happened to him? I believe he
was in the developmentals, got fed up and left for the indies. Answers
on a postcard (ok, so I’m not an almighty know-all).

Booker T – Signed as WWF’s big WCW name. Invaded at King of the Ring
2001 in a triple threat match and infamously injured number 1 star Steve
Austin. Bad move. Even more infamously had a woeful match with Buff
Bagwell in the first all WCW match. As a heel he feuded with The Rock
and Edge and teamed with Test but he became more noticed after forming
an oddball tag-team with Goldust last year. Hugely over, these guys
should have had a long reign with the straps but they had to make do
with being short-lived champs at the start of this year. Booker ditched
Dusty to chase the World Heavyweight crown at WrestleMania. I’d say 90%
of wrestling fans were extremely disappointed when Triple H retained.
Given the Intercontinental belt as compensation but got injured and
missed a few months of competition. Stuck in a feud with the awful Mark
Henry, I’d say the WWE were in danger of losing any momentum they ever
had with the Booker man.

Diamond Dallas Page – Was brought in as Sara Callaway’s stalker in what
was a very interesting angle – at first. However Undertaker (that name
again) decided he would not sell for DDP, and the angle was doomed.
Teamed with Chris Kanyon so Kane could whip their asses too. DDP then
became a self-motivator and had a feud with Christian. Retired through
injury. DDP was never really given a chance.

Chris Kanyon – Another guy who was never really given a chance. Was
originally the Alliance MVP, he was subsequently buried. Out with injury
for a long time, The Innovator of Offence returned at the start of the
year singing in a box as a gift from Big Show to Undertaker. Kanyon was
Taker’s bitch again. Currently jobbing on Velocity or dark matches. When
he came to WWF in 2001 the bookers were high on Kanyon and he had a lot
of respect in the locker room for his innovation and imagination.
However, I read recently that he is considered a ‘buffoon’ backstage and
is a bit of a geek. This is apparently why he’s not pushed.

And there you go, 21 personalities signed by the WWF/E when they picked
up WCW and I’d say about only 4 have made any real impact (Torrie,
Stacy, Chavo and Booker
). I think it’s a great shame that so much talent
has been or is being allowed to go to waste. But what can I do about it?
The WWE subsequently brought in huge names such as Ric Flair, Kevin
Nash, Scott Hall, Rey Mysterio, Hulk Hogan, Scott Steiner and Goldberg.
It’s been said many times before but if they’d brought these guys in to
begin with, who knows, we may have a WWE/WCW brand split, rather than
the Raw/Smackdown split.
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Oh Jesus fucking christ.....How long did you take to type this? You coluld learn how to wrestle instead of typing this....
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you are right, the little Ellf in my PC is the one who wrote all that.
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Although, it is an interesting post and solid info nonetheless....
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dude... dont realy believe he's been writing these but thats fucking racist and uncalled for

what the hell does his country of origin have to do with anything?
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dude... dont realy believe he's been writing these but thats fucking racist and uncalled for

what the hell does his country of origin have to do with anything?
saudi as in, he's saudi arabian, and english is not his first language, thus the extremely small chance of him writing it.
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LMAO. This is ANOTHER tired rant on why so many WCW guys suck. My list is a little more to the point.

Sean O'Haire - Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.
Lance Storm - Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.
Mike Awesome - Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.
Kaz Hayashi - Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.
Elix Skipper - Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.

'Sugar' Shane Helms/The Hurricane - The best guy to come out of WCW.

Lash LaRoux and Kid Romeo - Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.
Alan Funk/Kwee Wee – Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.
Hugh Morrus / Bill DeMott – Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.
Billy Kidman – Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody. But his wife is a hottie.
Shawn Stasiak – Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.
Chavo Guerrero – Ruining Eddie's run.
Chuck Palumbo – Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody. But he's in a decent stable, for now.
Mark Jindrak – Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.
Stacy Keibler – Hottie
Torrie Wilson – Hottie
Jason Jett/E.Z. Money – Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.
Booker T – Broken.
Diamond Dallas Page – Broken.
Chris Kanyon - Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.

Now if I really felt like it I would write up why all these ppl suck so much. But i'll let you blame it on WWE writers instead of the fact that most of them are second rate talent to begin with and have had injuries and setbacks of their own doing.
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saudi as in, he's saudi arabian, and english is not his first language, thus the extremely small chance of him writing it.
I see, however in my experience, many people of foreign origin actually speak and write English more clearly and properly than those of us who are born and raised in English speaking countries...usually due to the fact that they learned it more recently than the rest of us, and are more concerned with the rules of the language


it isnt always the case, but like I said, in my experience foreign people try harder to use English well.

also Badman, I dont think I've ever directly insulted you, I just think you have no taste in or knowledge of wrestling
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LMAO. This is ANOTHER tired rant on why so many WCW guys suck. My list is a little more to the point.

Sean O'Haire - Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.
Lance Storm - Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.
Mike Awesome - Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.
Kaz Hayashi - Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.
Elix Skipper - Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.

'Sugar' Shane Helms/The Hurricane - The best guy to come out of WCW.

Lash LaRoux and Kid Romeo - Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.
Alan Funk/Kwee Wee – Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.
Hugh Morrus / Bill DeMott – Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.
Billy Kidman – Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody. But his wife is a hottie.
Shawn Stasiak – Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.
Chavo Guerrero – Ruining Eddie's run.
Chuck Palumbo – Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody. But he's in a LAnce decent stable, for now.
Mark Jindrak – Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.
Stacy Keibler – Hottie
Torrie Wilson – Hottie
Jason Jett/E.Z. Money – Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.
Booker T – Broken.
Diamond Dallas Page – Broken.
Chris Kanyon - Jobber, Nobody. Who cares. Future TNA nobody.

Now if I really felt like it I would write up why all these ppl suck so much. But i'll let you blame it on WWE writers instead of the fact that most of them are second rate talent to begin with and have had injuries and setbacks of their own doing.
Billy Kidman is a great cruiserweight
Chavo is a great cruiserweight
Mark Jindrak could do ok if he'd get the fuck away from Cade
Kanyon is an amazing performer and pretty funny too watch
Lance Storm is a great wrestler, he just has no personality
Sean O'Haire I had high expectations of him, the promos cut before his return were great
DDP is cool....you leave him alone you mean mean man
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NOBODY BETTA THAN KANYON!!!!!
O'Haire would have been fucking amazing...

The Seanton bomb rules..

Swanton.... SUCKS!
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