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Old 19 Jun 2003, 10:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The following is something I found at prowrestling.com
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The word making the rounds is that SummerSlam will emanate from Toronto, Canada, next year.

It is no secret that WWE has been suffering from lower pay-per-view buy rates, lower house show attendances and negative reviews of 'Bad Blood'. In light of this, it is rumored that WWE have instructed talent to be very positive about their feelings on the brand extension in media interviews, regardless of their true feelings. The company hope that positive feedback from talent will help counter the fierce criticism they have been receiving since the brand split.

Just a reminder that Sting will be making his NWA:TNA debut at the pay-per-view tonight. Check back here later tonight to see what the outcome of that was, as well as extensive results from the rest of the show.
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My thoughts: If this is the case, then maybe just maybe some wrestlers really hate the idea of the brand extension. If they want a positive response from WWE PPVs, then give the people what they want.
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Old 19 Jun 2003, 11:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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IMO most wrestlers should really like the split. The only cases I've heard of where it was a legit problem were when freinds who used to travel together got sent on different shows, or Eddie and Chavo used to be on different shows. Other than that, I can't see why any wrestler would complain, especially since more talent are getting more tv time now than ever before.

Also, this is a dirtsheet report. There's no real story here. Mostly more gossip and made up speculation. The rumor mill is in full production.

And BadBlood had great booking and great potential. Just bad endings and some poor talent managment kept it down. Too bad because it could've been off the charts.
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Old 19 Jun 2003, 11:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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No story at all.

However, here is a "topic" off that story. I don't know where any. Let me repeat ANY, entertainer/wrestler should have one damn inch to bitch about anything. Seriously, for every single wrestler on the WWE roster, there are literally 200 indy wrestlers who do it for free, if not for damn near nothing, drive 20-500 miles just for a fucking match, that is untelivised, and who dream of at least being on HEAT, or VELOCITY, much less Raw or Smackdown. For every jerk off that sits there bitching about making millions, and not getting enough airtime to fucking bore us to death with missed spots and their personal issues and bullshit, and then go on Confidential, and show off their $3,000,000+ house. Fuck them. I think the stupid son of a bitches that bitch, should be fired, or just paid $25.00 a match until they EARN it.
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Old 19 Jun 2003, 12:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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IMO I've never been a fan of the brand extension. While it benefits in 1 area, it hurts in another, especially the PPV format. I mean Badd Blood could've been a lot better than what it was, also if you like watching the same thing every week, then it works. I thought it was an interesting article. If they would some inter-show matches once in a while, it'd be all right. They need to get some more wrestlers that just can't cut it.
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I have been writing about the failed Brand Extention since this site has been up. The Brand Extention is a complete failure in every aspect, and this does not go unknown to Vince and Linda McMahon, but the problems that face the WWE with ending the Brand Extention is that it would basically be admitting to the whole fan base and critics alike that the WWE is more wheels off than we think. It would also basically admit to the general (Stock buying) public that the company forcasts are not as strong as investors (yes, Vince McMahon is a Billionare, but any person or company that buys stock, especially in large amounts, are YOUR INVESTORS, and if they sell off stock, your company loses value, and money) have been lead to believe. This type of in-depth info really does affect the on-air product, and the revenue it generates from the public.

Now, how this boils down to you and I, the fan. Well, the "Brand Extention" idea has been toyed with in so many ways. First you had wCw/ECW "Invasion" and it became very evident that the WWE had no idea what to do without the competition. Nor did they have a creative enough writing and directing team to know how to utilize this. Then you take into consideration, that this is a FAMILY owned business, in which the head of the Family is the founder of the WWE. His word and personal feelings are law. The WWE and its talent pushes are very inter-political. Basically if you are not "tight" with the McMahon's and especially Vince McMahon, you are not going to get shit. It does not matter what your pressence is. I.e. Triple H. If he was not a future son-in-law, the bitch would not have a title. Not only does he have a title, but they completely wrote a way into the scripts to GIVE his ass a title that he could hold, and not have to get the WWE title. Making it seem impartial for the competition for the WWE title. So people like Undertaker, Lesnar, Angle, Rock could still have something to "compete" for.

Second on this "lists" is the fact that again, the brand extention has been toyed with, altered, and basically fucked up in every way. By still playing an intricate role on both shows, Vince has made Smackdown a 2-hour weekly pile of shit, and the talent is all on Raw. In their current trend to give the brand extention more solidification, they are trying separate PPV's, to see how each one of them can carry a rating. I figure after the Smackdown PPV, this idea will be nixed, if it has not already. The idea, is to get back to the original idea, and that is to create two completely separate brands, more like when you had the WWF and wCw competing against each other. The problem with that is, it is still one company, and there is too much common interest. It is not like for instance if Shane McMahon decided to start his own promotion, and shopped it to the networks, etc, and could honestly compete with the WWE. If this were to happen, then the WWE would again lose revenues. So, how do you compete, and still win? By giving the illusion that there is two separate companies and promotions, but profiting from both.

It would basically be like owning a Burger King, and a McDonald's both right accross the street from each other. So you are like, "hey, our Whoppers are better than their Big Mac's", and in reality, you don't give a fuck, you just want someone to stuff their face with either damn one.

To you and I, it is just another storyline, to the WWE, it is a revenue tool, that they have just not profected yet. Why? because the only thing that the McMahon's know, is what they have already done, so that is why you get a lot of rehashed storylines and ideas. This has worked before, so hell, it should work again. There is no innovation to it. If you take an honest look back, the WWF/WWE has never been very innovative. Honestly, it was the wCw, and ECW that pushed the WWF to have "Attitude" and after that? Well, there are no more big promotions to steal ideas from, so now you have the mundane unimaginative product that you see today. The best thing they have come up with in three years, the TLC match. That is about it.
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I really like the brand extension, and if I were to give my feelings about it I would pretty much just be re-writing everything Exodus said.



But the last time I checked the Forbes website, Vince McMahon and the WWE's worth were nowhere near a billion dollars.

Just a couple hundred million, and rapidly declining.
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wrestlers lying? whatever next?
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Um....NWA-TNA competing against WWE? I think they seriously need some competition and better creative storylines.
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By still playing an intricate role on both shows, Vince has made Smackdown a 2-hour weekly pile of shit, and the talent is all on Raw
man that is a crock of shit... I think Smackdown is the better of the two shows, The Only thing that keeps me watching raw is Goldberg And Austin.

I could argue and bitch about so much of what you just posted, but i wont... Im sure alot of people share the same opinion that I do... And that alot of people share the same opinion that you do.
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nwa may pose more of a threat than people think

the on;y people watching wrestling at the oment are the longterm wrestling fans who have watched it for a while, and they might get so pissed off with wwe that they prefer to buy more tna events and less wwe events
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