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Old 13 Jun 2003, 06:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs down the pedigree

i think this is one of the worst finishers ever. When HHH does it its really easy to reverse and even if gets it...it looks horrible. When he slams his opponent down in that position it looks weird what do you guys think??
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Old 13 Jun 2003, 06:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I agree, it does look weird. Sometimes the persons face never hits and alot of the wrestlers land differently from the one same move.
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Old 13 Jun 2003, 07:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The pedigree? i think it tells us something abut HHH's sexuality...
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Old 13 Jun 2003, 08:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The pedigree? i think it tells us something abut HHH's sexuality...
LOL, yeh I never did think the move looked right.I mean think about it,it just does'nt look right for the World champ to have another guys head between his legs.
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Old 13 Jun 2003, 08:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 13 Jun 2003, 08:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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LOL, yeh I never did think the move looked right.I mean think about it,it just does'nt look right for the World champ to have another guys head between his legs.
well what about the tombstone or the powerbomb
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Old 13 Jun 2003, 09:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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You can make a case for ANY wrestling move as to why it doesn't look right. Hell, you can make a case why wrestling period doesn't look right. I mean, 2 guys in underwear/tights rolling around with each other? You can't look at a move and say, "Oh that move looks gay."


Anyways, I like the Pedigree. I meanif he just put his opponent's head between his legs and did the move, it wouldn't be effective. What makes it effective is he has their arms hooked and then he does it and they land on their face. The move is a little old now, but it's still a good move nonetheless....
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Old 13 Jun 2003, 11:07 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I agree stick..it is a good move but it seems to be lacking something lately.
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Old 14 Jun 2003, 07:10 AM   #9 (permalink)
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what the pedigree lacks is a better move to put a person in it. The kick to the guts pisses me off. For the amount of time (especially lately) he takes to complete the move the guy hes just kicked in the guts has been immobile for what seems like ages and thats just not effective enough. It would mean HHH has the most powerful kick in the fucking universe.

Booker T also has the sanme problem in setting up for the axekick. And for all the people that bag out the peoples elbow at least his set up move (spine buster) is effective.

I know it might look a bit silly HHH pulling people up from the canvas to do the pedigree but if he did the spinning spinebuster that he does now as the set up move for the pedigree maybe that would enhance the look of the move and make it a little updated
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Old 14 Jun 2003, 08:45 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Old 14 Jun 2003, 09:45 AM   #11 (permalink)
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what the pedigree lacks is a better move to put a person in it. The kick to the guts pisses me off. For the amount of time (especially lately) he takes to complete the move the guy hes just kicked in the guts has been immobile for what seems like ages and thats just not effective enough. It would mean HHH has the most powerful kick in the fucking universe.

Booker T also has the sanme problem in setting up for the axekick. And for all the people that bag out the peoples elbow at least his set up move (spine buster) is effective.

I know it might look a bit silly HHH pulling people up from the canvas to do the pedigree but if he did the spinning spinebuster that he does now as the set up move for the pedigree maybe that would enhance the look of the move and make it a little updated
Great post man. I fully agree with you. The point you bring up about time taking to setup the move is a great one and can be said for other moves as well. One that comes to mind is Jeff Hardy's (FIRED!!!) Whisper In The Wind. He runs up the turnbuckle while the guy just stands there itchin his jock for a minute or ten. A lot of RVD's moves also take too much setup time. Undertaker's walk on the ropes is another move that bothers me. All he's doing is holding their freakin hand and it takes him 30 seconds to walk up on the top turnbuckle, then to walk over the ropes a bit. They expect me to believe that a guy is able to stand for 30 seconds, but NOT kick the ropes or fall into them or something? Riiiiiiiiight. One more that's an impressive move but just doesn't seem right, is when Eddie does the double team head scissors arm drag or whatever it is from the top. I've seen it where it took too long to develop and where it was hit really good. It all depends on how he hits it I guess.
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Sin..I've seen that before and it is brutal!
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Old 15 Jun 2003, 02:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
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depends on who is selling it.

The worst person to sell the Pedigree is by far Ric Flair, second would have to be Big Show.

The best would have to be HBK.

the person who is getting the move "done" to them has to really sell the move, and not be affraid to take the bump. Look at the Stone Cold Stunner, the move looks stupid by itself, but you add someone like the Rock, or Bubba Ray Dudley, they sell it the best, even doing the whole convultion thing.
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Old 15 Jun 2003, 03:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I think the rock sells the pedigree the best.
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Old 16 Jun 2003, 02:39 PM   #15 (permalink)
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The pedigree is aparantley the most devastating move since Hogan's leg drop. Nobody kicks out of it. Ever.

And he takes so long to set it up. The kick and then all the time it takes to get into postition and ugh, it's slow. At least Austin goes for the stunner really quick after the kick, it's like one move together. The kick setup for the scissors kick is silly to. I hate watching them stand there and try to move into position without beind totally obvious.

IMO, the best set up and move combo is (suprise) Y2J's bulldog off the ropes, then he goes right for the lionsault, and it's only like a 1 second delay in the transition.

But back to trips, he is making everyone look real stupid with the pedigree. It's really starting to piss me off now that I think about it.
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