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Old 08 Sep 2002, 04:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This kind of goes along with the Hardcore post, but seriously, where the hell is Raven? Besides wrestling house shows and Heat, the guy is nowhere.

With the elimination of the Hardcore title, this guys shot at gold is so far away that he might as well go to NWA-TNA or somewhere else. For quite awhile this guy was entertaining to watch with 'The Flock' The Flock is still a good stable idea, and I'd like to see a strong reformation.

Tag team wrestling is pretty much dead, hardcore is no more, no European title(not too much complaint), but STABLES are also as good as dead. Does anyone consider the UnAmericans a true stable? Its got three pretty talented wrestlers, but with a gimmick that is as old as the Iron Sheik.

I for one, enjoy stables in the wrestling world. I think the flock should fly again, and give Raven something to really participate in. To top it off, make them a hardcore stable, with some of the old ECW guys, and have them feud with decent superstars.

Just a thought, but what do you guys think?
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Old 08 Sep 2002, 05:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I like Raven, always have. Its a shame what the wwe is doing to him. They really have killed his career!

the flock is the only thing that can save him now!
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Old 08 Sep 2002, 05:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Raven used to be much better. most of the matches of his the last few months ive seen have been quite boring, and i know he can do better ive seen it. maybe wwe killed the hc division to relaunch it in a blaze of hype and exitement!

i should be a mod, id be a bloodsy good on i would.
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Raven used to be much better. most of the matches of his the last few months ive seen have been quite boring, and i know he can do better ive seen it. maybe wwe killed the hc division to relaunch it in a blaze of hype and exitement!

i should be a mod, id be a bloodsy good on i would.
Well if they do bring it back, it won't happen for a long time, so people can forget how bad the divison was.
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Old 08 Sep 2002, 10:56 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Ravens ok don't like him but don't hate him either.
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Old 08 Sep 2002, 07:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Raven's WCW gimmick was off da hook , but what WWE did to him should be punished !
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Old 08 Sep 2002, 07:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 08 Sep 2002, 07:46 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Raven's promos r the shit! quote the raven never more!
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I think that Raven is much more someone who would be better used in the NWA, since the WWE continues week after week to hold down the actual good wrestlers and push the same people like Rock and Taker in the main picture. people like Gearruo, Benoit, Storm, Justine Credable, Mike Awsome, Booker T need to go to a federation where the fans appreceate the in ring abilty and not the funny catch phase's of the wrestler. Those are mainly the best wrestlers in the WWE that i just stated besides a few (Angle, Y2J....). But it bothers me when I see Benoit and Angle put on an ill match and then Taker who does the least gets a lame win and becomes #1 contender
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Old 08 Sep 2002, 07:58 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Yo man there's gotta be a reason why Vinny mac is holding back Eddie G and Benoit, maybe it's because the people dont want to se a midget like Benoit in a main event v.s Brock Lesnar, it would be embarising cause Brock would beat the living hell out of that gap toothed bitch, at least the Undertapper can give him a challenge, as for Angle/Brock feud, that will happen in the future.
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Does a match Involving Ric Flair v. Vader ring a bell, well thats about the size difference between Benoit and Brock and Benoit would be able to sell a match with Brock and you know it, so could Eddy....they would use power speed and agility to sell the match and it would be a damn good one......I wanna see them wrestle the champion, aint no one better then these mentioned
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WWE is so jaded to truly harness the potential they have within certain wrestlers (Raven) for example, ugh I could go on for hours maybe days stressing WWE's misdirection or lame ideas for their true wrestlers, but I will not, because seems to me, almost everyone in this post seems to have their facts straight, which is by the way quite impressive... considering most WWE fans buy into whatever what Vince wipes his ass with, though regardless NWA is certainly one promotion I would like to see outshine some of the "crap" we are stuck with now in WWE, or something there other.
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Old 09 Sep 2002, 08:03 AM   #13 (permalink)
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raven has had too many average-to-naff matches before he was ejected from raw, without a hardcore bout, he's limited. maybe he has enough "name value " left to be a bigger name in nwa?
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Wwe should bring back raven with a new flock!
Say with justin credable, albert, kanyon, hugh morris, rhyno? Who come back as hardcore wrestlers who batter the other superstars with trashcans,chairs etc during there matches Demanding hardcore wrestling to return!!
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Ok, I went to a house show last night, and in that house show, Raven jobbed to D'Lo. It was a quick match that seemed like it was over before it should be. The surprise though, was that Raven actually got a much bigger pop than D'Lo, even though Raven was the heel in the match.

A reformation of the flock with Kanyon, Rhyno, Credible, and maybe even Hugh Morris, would be a stable well worth watching in my opinion. Especially if they take an extreme or hardcore route.

By the way, I'm leaving for RAW in about two hours.
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