Raw is WrestleCrap???

21 Feb 2003, 01:06 AM

Is it just me or is WWE seem to going back in time? like around 95-97 when gimmicks and angles totally sucked

Danevs · 21 Feb 2003, 08:57 AM

its not as bad as 95 -97 and dont think nothing can be but it is poor but perhaps with austin back hopefully goldberg one day things may start looking up

J-Syxx · 21 Feb 2003, 03:27 PM

I thought '97 was WWE's best year.

Slash · 21 Feb 2003, 03:30 PM

I agree with J-Sick....The Montreal Incident....The Rock....Austin..... McMahon... Russo...It was an instrumental year in which the tide of wrestling changed.....The tide changed from WCW to WWF.....

21 Feb 2003, 03:39 PM

1997 was the year of the bret vs austin s classic at mania and the birth of the hart foundation s faction (as heels).
Great year no doubt about it...

Rebel · 21 Feb 2003, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J-$ick
I thought '97 was WWE's best year.

I agree with you. It was the best back then.

bl4d3 · 21 Feb 2003, 06:34 PM

IMO, 1998 was the best, it was the attitude era, and it kicked ass!

Tamara Sanchez · 21 Feb 2003, 06:44 PM

Raw has still better STORYLINES then Smackdown , so what's your problem ? Raw = entertainment , SD = wrestling !

Slash · 21 Feb 2003, 07:06 PM

That's exactly the problem....RAW = Entertainment....Smackdown = Wrestling....Should not both shows be a blend of wrestling and entertainment.... I understand the need to seperate the brands....Cruiserweights exclusive to Smackdown....And what not.....But the fact is....One should not be sacrificed for the other....If you want Smackdown to seperate from RAW..... Wrestling wise...It does not mean you bury RAW by putting shit on like Berny Mac (Or whatever the hell his name is) Vs. Al Snow.....

J-Syxx · 21 Feb 2003, 11:31 PM

Quote:

IMO, 1998 was the best, it was the attitude era, and it kicked ass!

It was also the attitude era in 97'. The term wasn't invented untill 98 or 99 I believe, but it was 97' when the WWE's attitude really changed. Most likely spurred by the changes in WCW. In the WWE in 97 you've got Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels main-eventing, two awesome stables the Hart Foundation and the original DX, and people like Stone Cold and the Rock as mid-carders (where I liked them the most).

22 Feb 2003, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bl4d3
IMO, 1998 was the best, it was the attitude era, and it kicked ass!

I agree. Classic

HitMan_85 · 22 Feb 2003, 09:00 AM

to me 97 was the best and my favorite year for the WWF bret the foundation birth of DX Austin on the rise great matches and plenty of controversy birth of Hell in the Cell 98 was the best year financially

Heel Rock · 22 Feb 2003, 02:33 PM

well i agree with all of you..and i also agree that it will be good now that rock is back and austin coming back at NWO!! however i think as far as bad gimmics...goldberg would ruin wwe if he came!! pretty bad gimmic there keeping the streak going!! besides they have brock..so why have goldberg too?? basically the same invinciable gimmic..so 2 wouldn't work!!

chadeley · 22 Feb 2003, 06:07 PM

I consider the 1995-1997 period in WWE history "the dark period". I remember very little of what went on during that span, and there was even a period when I stopped watching WWE. After that, I have only missed one or two RAWs and have been following it pretty closely. Grant it, some of the RAW storylines are weak, but Smackdown! has a couple weak ones as well. I forget which ones, but they do. Something definately needs to turn around to get the WWE back to the major role it had in the late 90s early 00s.

21 Feb 2003, 01:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
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21 Feb 2003, 08:57 AM	#2 (permalink)
Danevs Fear the Spear !!!! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wales, Britain Posts: 759 Rep Power: 15	its not as bad as 95 -97 and dont think nothing can be but it is poor but perhaps with austin back hopefully goldberg one day things may start looking up __________________ Its the question on everyones mind in sports entertainment...... WHOS NEXT ???

21 Feb 2003, 03:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
Slash The Don Killuminati Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Hunterville...Where We Shoot To Kill Posts: 3,893 Rep Power: 19	I agree with J-Sick....The Montreal Incident....The Rock....Austin..... McMahon... Russo...It was an instrumental year in which the tide of wrestling changed.....The tide changed from WCW to WWF..... __________________ We Are The Legacy Of Wrestling On PWF, We Were Internet Ratings, We Were The Show Stopper, The Headliner, The Main Event. We Were SLASHHH And TR(UTH)IPLE H....We Were TOWC: HHH TOWC: The Legend Continues 9 Times....

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bl4d3 Seven Nation Army Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Burnaby, BC Canada Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	IMO, 1998 was the best, it was the attitude era, and it kicked ass! __________________ "You know what most people don't talk about anymore? Pussy farts!" -George Carlin

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Tamara Sanchez BITCH ! BITE ME ! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: freakin old Germany Posts: 1,105 Rep Power: 17	Raw has still better STORYLINES then Smackdown , so what's your problem ? Raw = entertainment , SD = wrestling ! __________________ Join CWF - the greatest e-fed ever ! (and the longest running) : http://adamico.hyperboards.com/index.cgi

21 Feb 2003, 03:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
J-Syxx Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,216 Rep Power: 17	I thought '97 was WWE's best year.

21 Feb 2003, 03:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
Matthew Bellamy Guest Posts: n/a	1997 was the year of the bret vs austin s classic at mania and the birth of the hart foundation s faction (as heels). Great year no doubt about it...

21 Feb 2003, 07:06 PM	#9 (permalink)
Slash The Don Killuminati Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Hunterville...Where We Shoot To Kill Posts: 3,893 Rep Power: 19	That's exactly the problem....RAW = Entertainment....Smackdown = Wrestling....Should not both shows be a blend of wrestling and entertainment.... I understand the need to seperate the brands....Cruiserweights exclusive to Smackdown....And what not.....But the fact is....One should not be sacrificed for the other....If you want Smackdown to seperate from RAW..... Wrestling wise...It does not mean you bury RAW by putting shit on like Berny Mac (Or whatever the hell his name is) Vs. Al Snow..... __________________ We Are The Legacy Of Wrestling On PWF, We Were Internet Ratings, We Were The Show Stopper, The Headliner, The Main Event. We Were SLASHHH And TR(UTH)IPLE H....We Were TOWC: HHH TOWC: The Legend Continues 9 Times....

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HitMan_85 Realest N*gga! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: At your momma's hot spot Posts: 201 Rep Power: 15	to me 97 was the best and my favorite year for the WWF bret the foundation birth of DX Austin on the rise great matches and plenty of controversy birth of Hell in the Cell 98 was the best year financially __________________ <img src="http://www.hitman.tierranet.com/images/ss5.jpg"> The H.N.I.C is back for you Punks <img src="http://www.hitman.tierranet.com/images/980727_1.jpg"> Don't forget who the king is K I N G OF C O N T R O V E R S Y

22 Feb 2003, 02:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
Heel Rock ROCKY!! ROCKY!! ROCKY!! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 223 Rep Power: 15	well i agree with all of you..and i also agree that it will be good now that rock is back and austin coming back at NWO!! however i think as far as bad gimmics...goldberg would ruin wwe if he came!! pretty bad gimmic there keeping the streak going!! besides they have brock..so why have goldberg too?? basically the same invinciable gimmic..so 2 wouldn't work!!

22 Feb 2003, 06:07 PM	#14 (permalink)
chadeley Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Western PA Posts: 592 Rep Power: 76	I consider the 1995-1997 period in WWE history "the dark period". I remember very little of what went on during that span, and there was even a period when I stopped watching WWE. After that, I have only missed one or two RAWs and have been following it pretty closely. Grant it, some of the RAW storylines are weak, but Smackdown! has a couple weak ones as well. I forget which ones, but they do. Something definately needs to turn around to get the WWE back to the major role it had in the late 90s early 00s. __________________ chadeley "I've been in Hell in a Cell matches, I've been in hardcore matches, I've been in barbed wire matches, but this is the hardest thing I've ever had to do.....color commentary with Mike Adamle!" Mick Foley, WWE Draft "Its obvious you are distracted by what happened last week on Monday Night RAW. I too, have been distracted by what happened last week on Monday Night RAW. All week I have stared at the ceiling with Kleenex and lotion by my bed." Santino Marella to Beth Phoenix, RAW House Show, Youngstown, OH 7/25/08

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