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Default Yahoo's top 6 reasons why the Patriots are hated

Outside of New England this is.

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By Michael Silver, Yahoo! Sports
December 14, 2007

Sitting at a Boston bar early last Sunday morning, Nancy Brady handed me a Grey Goose and soda and posed a simple question. As she relishes the greatest season that her younger brother, Tom, has ever enjoyed and the success of a New England Patriots team that seems to have taken football to an ethereal level the unfailingly upbeat Ms. Brady can't help but notice the chill coming at her from all directions.

"Why does everybody hate us?" she asked. "When we won the first Super Bowl, we were the out-of-nowhere underdogs, and everyone seemed to celebrate it. Even when we won the other two, it didn't seem like people were that against us. But now "

She stopped and smiled before continuing: "Now people are saying, 'Break out the Dramamine.' "

OK, that was a dig. Nancy is no shrinking violet, and if you don't believe me, ask the rowdy actress who only narrowly escaped from a Gillette Stadium luxury box after incurring her wrath a few years back. In this case, she was sincerely perplexed about why her team had become the Hate-riots, and over the next half-hour I did my best to give her an honest answer.

Now, for you unlucky souls who weren't part of our festive crew at Mistral, here are the six reasons that almost everyone hates the Pats:


1. Bitter Bill: Even the most cynical of football fans will readily acknowledge that Bill Belichick is a brilliant coach whose mastery of defensive strategy, character evaluation and building a team-oriented atmosphere is unrivaled. I'm one of those people who can attest that he actually possesses a personality and, at times, a sense of humor. But as his legend has grown, Belichick, rather than bask in his accomplishments, has appeared increasingly petty, vindictive and miserable. Watching him callously shove that photographer who was blocking his path to former assistant Eric Mangini following the Pats' playoff victory over the Jets and, after the obviously insincere hug, pushing his way past another cameraman was a major turnoff to many fans. His joyless blowoff of the popular Tony Dungy during their postgame handshake in November, whatever his reasons, showed once again that Belichick isn't all that stressed about how others perceive him. Just as Barry Bonds' prickly nature wins him no points with media members and most fans outside of San Francisco, the lack of warmth projected by Belichick (even in relation to his typically tight peers) causes anyone not already cheering for the Patriots to resent his success.

2. Reformed Randy: Until joining the Patriots in April, wideout Randy Moss was a symbol for everything most sports fans detest. Brazenly defending his "I play when I want to play" mantra, squirting Gatorade at an official in a playoff game, walking out on his team before a game ended Moss, in Minnesota, was hardly an endearing figure. Then he went to Oakland and got even worse, ripping his employers with regularity and openly dogging it on the field. Yet after last season, Tom Brady actively wooed Moss and, once the receiver arrived in New England, he began lauding him for being a "great teammate" and a "great leader." Very few people, outside of some judgmental wackos from the religious right, have anything negative to say about Brady, but it's disturbing to hear the greatest player in football praise Moss in such over-the-top fashion. Belichick, too, chimed in, citing Moss' "professionalism" as a reason the receiver would fit in with the Patriots. Even worse has been listening to the rationalizations of most Pats fans, who would absolutely detest Moss were he a) on another team or b) on their team in a pickup game. Which brings us to

3. Patriot Propaganda: Somehow, it's not enough that New England has the best owners, coach and quarterback, not to mention an accomplished talent evaluator (Scott Pioli) and a slew of really, really good players who understand and follow their assignments. The Pats also have to proclaim that their culture is superior. (And please, spare me your emails claiming this is a media creation; I've got the quotes to back it up.) It's true that the Patriots have a solid locker room full of respected leaders, and that's a major reason guys like Moss and Corey Dillon have put aside turbulent pasts and thrived in that environment. But this whole "winning with class" thing? Barf. First of all, the Pats talk plenty on the field even Brady (Tom, not Nancy) got into with some Steelers last Sunday, the way Joe Montana used to in his early years. They talk trash before and after games as well, though usually under the guise that they were provoked by an opponent's disrespectful words. They also taunt; just ask LaDainian Tomlinson, who took such great offense to the postgame behavior of some Pats players after their playoff victory at San Diego in January that he called Belichick "classless." Never mind whether LT's comments were justified; just know that many outside observers and players for other NFL teams are of the opinion that the Pats' holier-than-thou self-image is garbage.

4. Dynasty Disease: Some of the negativity toward the Pats is a simple result of their amazing run of excellence, and in an era that is supposed to have built-in mechanisms against such sustained prosperity. Since the merger, at various times, the Cowboys, 49ers, Steelers and other big winners have felt the wrath of the masses purely for seeming unbeatable, in the same way that Notre Dame, the Yankees and the Lakers and Celtics have in their respective realms. Call it jealousy, boredom, a natural tendency to root for the underdog or a combination of all three whatever. The bottom line is that the Pats have become so dominant that many fans of other teams are eager to see them fall.

5. Spygate Surliness: You didn't think we'd skip over the great scandal of 2007, did you? It's true that some people flat-out hate the Pats because, after a team employee was caught videotaping the Jets' coaches giving signals from the sidelines in the season opener despite a clear directive from the league banning such acts, they view Belichick as a cheater whose previous successes are thus tainted in the same way Bonds' (and now, apparently, Roger Clemens' and so many others' in baseball) were. But I'd say a larger group reviles Belichick and, to some degree, his players for the way they've reacted to "Spygate." Though he was fined $500,000 by the NFL, and the organization was docked another $250,000 and a first-round draft choice, Belichick never came clean. The coach tried to hide behind a technicality while insisting he hadn't intentionally violated the rule. Then, beginning with the team's Week 2 blowout of the Chargers, the Pats adopted an attitude that cast themselves as the aggrieved party a "how-dare-you-question-our-excellence?" middle finger to the world.

6. Obnoxious Overkill: There has been a great deal of debate as to whether the Pats have run up the score in some of their lopsided victories, and rather than get into the validity of such charges, I'm simply going to note that the perception exists. It was one thing to score a gratuitous touchdown against the Cowboys, probably the league's second-most-hated franchise. But when New England appeared to pour it on against Hall of Fame coach Joe Gibbs in a 52-7 thrashing of the Redskins, a lot of people thought Belichick and his players were rubbing it in and it rubbed them the wrong way. Again, it would be one thing if a team were perceived as running up scores against overmatched opponents. But when that team also attempts to position itself as the emblem of class, expect a serious backlash from the masses.


Was it like this for the Cowboys back in the 90's?
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Man, I'm not reading some home town bullshit like that. Whoever wrote that can fuck off. I hate his ass too.
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Michael Silver is a fucking idiot. I seriously stopped reading his shit a long time ago because he's just fucking brain dead. Seriously, this guy makes Dan Deirdorf look like Albert fucking Einstein.

I'll tell you why I hate the Patriots:

Bill Belichek is a piece of shit that I'm going to see in hell.

They're cheaters.

That's about it. And it's good enough for me.

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Was it like this for the Cowboys back in the 90's?
Nope. In fact I can't name any one of my friends who dislike the cowboys now or ever disliked them for that matter

Obnoxious overkill

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I'll tell you why I hate the Patriots:

Bill Belichek is a piece of shit that I'm going to see in hell.

They're cheaters.
That's reason's 1 and 5.
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Cause they are winning, sprinkle that with cheatgate and you have a recipe for hate towards a sports team....yeah look back at any dynasty and you will find the same attitude. I realize that soccer is a cuss word around here but the Pats are like the EPL's Chelsea, hated cause they have it all with undertones of unfair team ethics.
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I don't recall hating the Cowboys...and I don't recall any such national backlash against them or the 49ers in the 80s. Everybody laughed at the Bills in the 90s...but none of them were confirmed cheaters.

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But no matter what, there is always a group, small or large, that reels against any "dynasty caliber" franchises. If you win haters are gonna hate on ya, no matter what, from the cokeboys to the cheatriots people are gonna find something to hate about ya.
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I can't think of a single thing to hate on the 9ers teams of the 80s for...

Kurt can...but I can't...

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People hated the Cokeboys cuz they beat their favorite team while on the snow

I'd be pretty pissed if a coked up team could beat my team too. That's how fucking good they were
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Very few people, outside of some judgmental wackos from the religious right, have anything negative to say about Brady
I had to read that about ten times to figure out if I was reading that correctly or not. After the tenth time reading it, I assumed I had interpreted it correctly and decided to stop reading the article.

I can't think of anything else to say other than WHAT THE FUCK...??? Does this guy live under a rock?

With that said, I have my reasons for hating the Patriots and Tom Brady is right up there at the top next to his butt buddy Bill.

1) Bill Belichick has no class. Running up the score. Going for it on fourth down when they're already up by three or four TDs in the 4th quarter. Taking Tom Brady out of the game in the 4th when you're annihilating the Dolphins, only to put him back in the game after the Dolphins score to save his team from winning by less than 40 points. Need I say more?

2) Bill Belichick is a cheater. Let's face it... the Patriots cheated in one of the biggest NFL scandals to date. I still don't think the media made it out to be as bad as it actually is. People can say that it happened the first game of the season, but we don't know how long the Patriots have been doing this. If they did it this year, why wouldn't they have done it in previous, Super Bowl-winning years? How do we know that their cheating hasn't affected their potential undefeated season? We don't. The fact that Belichick is still an NFL coach is mind-boggling.

3) Tom Brady takes in the butt. Brady may be more classless than Belichick. Listen to the guy during press conferences. He's not afraid to say that his team is the best and your team sucks. He's able to back it up, which is always a good thing for him, but it's even better when he can't.

4) New England is in New England. Red Sox, Bruins, Celtics, Patriots... tell me if I named a team that doesn't make you load your gun.

5) The '72 Dolphins have had their champagne on ice for thirteen weeks now. I'd like my team to remain the only team to have an undefeated season. The last team we'd want to share that title with is the New England Patriots. I think Larry Little of the '72 Dolphins summed it up pretty well in a local pregame interview a couple of weeks ago. When asked whether or not he was worried that the Patriots would go undefeated, he said something along the lines of, "The way I see it, even if New England goes undefeated, we'll always be 1A and they'll be 1B. We won all of our games with our second string QB while New England is afraid to put their second string QB in for more than two plays." Little then topped the interview off by saying something like, "We played football by the rules and didn't try to make anyone look bad. I'm not sure New England knows how to play without looking at the other team's playbook." It was the funniest interview I've seen and it was nice to see someone actually tell it how it is on TV. Had it be on national TV and not just the local news, I think the sports world would've been up in arms.
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I can't think of a single thing to hate on the 9ers teams of the 80s for...

Kurt can...but I can't...

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Why because the Niners put together a 92-yards in the 2-minutes drill which was engineered by the greatest QB of all time to win the SuperBowl over the Bengals?...OH right I can see why Kurt would hate us...

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4) New England is in New England. Red Sox, Bruins, Celtics, Patriots... tell me if I named a team that doesn't make you load your gun.

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Load your Gun? What the fuck!

Because of bullshit like you are not allowed to wear sports jerseys in certain bars and clubs in the Phoenix area.....Don't worry Sam your Dolphins will be setting a record of their own this year.
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Load your Gun? What the fuck!

Because of bullshit like you are not allowed to wear sports jerseys in certain bars and clubs in the Phoenix area.....Don't worry Sam your Dolphins will be setting a record of their own this year.
I was joking obviously.

Actually, I think in a week my Dolphins will be ending a winning streak as well as a losing streak. Wait and see.
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I was joking obviously.

Actually, I think in a week my Dolphins will be ending a winning streak as well as a losing streak. Wait and see.
Yeah and at Armagedon Hornswaggle is going to bench press Khail.
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