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Old 08 Jul 2005, 02:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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IOC Drops Baseball, Softball From Games
By STEPHEN WILSON, AP Sports Writer
1 hour ago

SINGAPORE - Baseball and softball, two sports invented in America, were dropped Friday from the Olympic program for the 2012 Summer Games in London.

Each of the 28 existing sports was put to a secret vote by the International Olympic Committee, and baseball and softball failed to receive a majority required to stay on the program. The other 26 sports were retained.

"I think they've made a big, big mistake," said Tommy Lasorda, the former Dodgers manager who managed the 2000 U.S. team to the gold medal in the 2000 Sydney Games. "Baseball is played by all countries now and softball, too. I think that's really going to hurt the Olympics. I don't want to knock the other sports, but I think this is a big mistake. I am very disappointed.

"I was fortunate enough to coach the U.S. Olympic team in Australia. The parks were full at all times. How can they take away a sport like that?"

The IOC will consider replacing them with two sports from a waiting list of five: golf, rugby, squash, karate and roller sports. That decision will be made Saturday.

Baseball and softball, which will remain on the program for the 2008 Beijing Games, are the first sports cut from the Olympics since polo in 1936.

Baseball, which became a medal sport in 1992, has been vulnerable because it doesn't bring top Major League players to the Olympics. Softball, a women's medal sport since 1996, has been in danger because of a perceived lack of global appeal and participation.

"Needless to say, these sports are very, very disappointed," IOC president Jacques Rogge said after announcing the result. "However, I have to emphasize the fact that they should not fear this purge. The fact is that they shall not be included in the program of the 2012 Olympic Games, but it does not disqualify them forever as Olympic sports."

Rogge said baseball and softball will be eligible to win back their place in future games.

"I would like to invite the leaders of these sports that will not be included in the program to make their very best efforts during the coming years so as to be able to convince the session that they deserve to come back to the Olympic Games in 2016. We shall support them in their efforts."

Major League Baseball and the players' union plan to launch on Monday the Baseball Classic, a 16-nation tournament that will begin in March and feature players on big league rosters.

Aldo Notari, the Italian president of the international baseball federation, acknowledged that the absence of major leaguers in the Olympics was the crucial factor in the sport's exclusion.

"One is not happy when one is in this situation," he said. "The problem with baseball is the best players are not going to the Olympics Games. But baseball is still in Beijing and it is still necessary to work for the future in 2016."

Don Porter, the American president of the international softball federation, said he was devastated by the vote.

"We thought that we had a lot of support," he said. "The members told us we were getting support, but obviously we weren't."

Porter said the decision goes back to Mexico City in 2002 when Rogge tried - but failed - to get baseball, softball and modern pentathlon removed.

"They wanted us out," Porter said. "They didn't get us out - it took them three years and now they got us out. I just think the IOC wanted some opportunity to introduce several new sports ... and in order to do that, they had to remove a couple of sports and that's what they did today."

Baseball and softball are sports rooted in American tradition.

"I don't want to say it's an anti-U.S. thing, but they are two native American sports," Porter said.

He noted that modern pentathlon, which has been on the program since the first modern games in 1896, had tradition and European support on its side.

"Europe has strong voting power in the IOC," Porter said. "They worked hard, they did the right thing to get enough to stay in."

Removal from the program can be crippling for smaller sports federations, which rely heavily on Olympic revenues for survival.

Before the vote, the head of the international federations described the existing program as a "delicate instrument" and "magical combination" which shouldn't be changed.

"Once you take one piece out to put another piece in, you don't know what the consequences will be," said Denis Oswald, president of the Association of Summer Olympic International Federations. "Don't change a winning team."

The IOC will keep the voting figures secret. Not even the IOC members or sports federations will learn the totals. The secrecy was requested by the international federations in order to avoid any ranking or embarrassment for any sports which just barely make the cut.

Rogge said the figures will be seen only by an independent official, who will send the results by sealed envelope to an IOC notary in Lausanne, Switzerland. Rogge will only open the envelope in the case of a voting dispute.

"Not all sports are indispensable for the Olympic program, we know that," Rogge told the delegates before the vote.

Senior IOC member Dick Pound of Canada harshly criticized the secrecy, saying it undermined the IOC's moves for openness. He said it was in the interests of the sports federations themselves to know how they stand.

"What kind of message does the IOC send when there is complete secrecy on an issue that is important to the world?" Pound said.

But Rogge said the IOC executive board had accepted the request by the federations, who fear a low vote total would hurt them in finding sponsorship and television contracts.

"Whether we agree or not, if this is the unanimous position of the 28 international federations, we have to respect that," Rogge said.

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What the fuck is the IOC thinking? Isn't baseball behind soccer as the most popular sport in the world? I can see them dropping softball, but baseball? What the hell? The stupidest thing about this is the sports that might replace it. Golf, rugby, squash, karate and roller sports. Squash? WTF is Squash? And Roller Sports? We already have an olympics for those. It's called, the X-Games.
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It seems like a pretty retarded decision.
The olympics already have taikwondo (sp) what the fuck does it need karate for.
Golf would be sweet. Give tiger a chance for a golden slam.
Squash........why bother with tennis already there as a raquet sport.
Roller sports.........Nothing extreme about being mainstream.
Rugby...probably sevens rugby but who cares I cant fuckung stand the game
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It seems like a pretty retarded decision.
The olympics already have taikwondo (sp) what the fuck does it need karate for.
Golf would be sweet. Give tiger a chance for a golden slam.
Squash........why bother with tennis already there as a raquet sport.
Roller sports.........Nothing extreme about being mainstream.
Rugby...probably sevens rugby but who cares I cant fuckung stand the game
I can see them trying some other sports in the olympics. Golf would be cool, but why the fuck do they have to replace baseball with it? Replace it with some jobber sport, isn't Ping-Pong and olympic sport? Geez I bet there is like two people in that crowd. Get rid of that.
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They cut softball and baseball, but they keep curling..... ....I don't get it.
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They cut softball and baseball, but they keep curling..... ....I don't get it.
Have you ever played curling? Probably not.

But if you would actually give it a chance you would realize its really fun to play. I played it last year for the first time and i'm pissed that I didn't play it my whole life. Curling is awesome.


But fuck the olympics. Who gives a shit about baseball being dropped. Every event there is a joke besides hockey, curling and basketball.
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It looks like something you play at a retirement home
Old people would probably fall on the ice and break a hip even though the ice isn't even that slippery.
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They cut softball and baseball, but they keep curling..... ....I don't get it.
Curling rules, and I'm not even Canadian.
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Isnt curling a Winter sport? Oh and WTF is squash? Also, heres an idea, just get rid of all those martial arts BS and just let them do MMA fighting. There are so many guys from so many nations, it would be FUCKING HUGE!!!!
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