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Old 06 Mar 2005, 05:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Today, the Busch ran its first ever race in Mexico and had the highest attendance ever for a Busch race (around 100,000) and qualifying had 60,000 spectators. NASCAR is making a huge effort to win the Mexican market.

Do you think NASCAR will become popular in Mexico and other countries like it is here?
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I hope not, personally. Never find something interesting in these series...Cars turning around for 2 hours doesn't interest me.
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I don't know. I like NASCAR a lot. I think it's funny to see Mexicans watching what is said to be a stereotypical redneck.
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It should be limited to the US only.

NASCAR's popularity won't spread to other countires, and nor should it.

I got into it becasue it was a East Coast and Southern sport full of tradition and excitement. That statement doesn't comply with the NASCAR of today.

You take Jr. out of NASCAR (or any future Earnhardt) and NASCAR will stumble dramatically. and I can't wait for the day it happens.

NASCAR has shit all of it history and tradition.
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Whatever. First of all, you don't have any depth of knowledge about any of that stuff, so you're just talking out of your ass. Secondly, you wouldn't be saying any of that shit if Barry Bonds wasn't some roided up freak who you're in love with.

It's fucking gay. I have better things to do than deal with someone who can't even debate a point, rather changes the subject again and again to deflect the fact that he's dead wrong. It's what dumbass 6th graders do...


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I mean...you're the kind of guy that thinks if you yell louder than the other person, you will win a debate. And that's not new either...I've pretty much thought that about you from day one...

I didn't want to put it that way, but since you want to press on...

Lame dude. Just lame. I have better shit to do. You probably should too...but I'm betting you don't...

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It should be limited to the US only.

NASCAR's popularity won't spread to other countires, and nor should it.

I got into it becasue it was a East Coast and Southern sport full of tradition and excitement. That statement doesn't comply with the NASCAR of today.

You take Jr. out of NASCAR (or any future Earnhardt) and NASCAR will stumble dramatically. and I can't wait for the day it happens.

NASCAR has shit all of it history and tradition.
It could spread in popularity in other countries, maybe as niche sports.

I don't agree with the Earnhardt comment. If Jr. were to go, there are lot of drivers that could be "the guy" (ie. Gordon, Stewart, Kenseth).
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Gordon has no talent. He is as exciting as a piece of cardboard, and he's a whining bitch. The Faggot can not attract old or new fans of the sport and coujld never be "the face" of NASCAR.

Being cardboard is Kenseth's problem. He has no flare. Could never be the guy.

Stewart can be. He has the talent and the flare. He could step up.

Harvick could be (if RCR would get their heads out of their asses). Same as Stewart.

You take Jr. out and the only guys that could be embraced by fans are Stewart, Harvick, and maybe Newman.
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I did. Remember?? You're just following me around acting like a little bitch posting after every post I put down because...well, because hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

You're probably sitting there wishing you had a pic of my kids so you could Photoshop them onto something because that's all you can really do.

Sure...you can take a run at numbfuck SC or plainjane Josh or complete moron Alex or can't get out of his own way Boston...but I don't agree with you about Barry and it's "Rueben Droughns this" "weed that" "your kids this" "Look at me and my halo over my head that."

Whatever. First of all, you don't have any depth of knowledge about any of that stuff, so you're just talking out of your ass. Secondly, you wouldn't be saying any of that shit if Barry Bonds wasn't some roided up freak who you're in love with.

It's fucking gay. I have better things to do than deal with someone who can't even debate a point, rather changes the subject again and again to deflect the fact that he's dead wrong. It's what dumbass 6th graders do...


I honestly don't give a fuck about your opinion. Like I told Alex, they're just words on a screen. I can't believe you don't get that concept...but okay.

I mean...you're the kind of guy that thinks if you yell louder than the other person, you will win a debate. And that's not new either...I've pretty much thought that about you from day one...

I didn't want to put it that way, but since you want to press on...

Lame dude. Just lame. I have better shit to do. You probably should too...but I'm betting you don't...

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can i ask you guys something. how do you have talent in racing i mean i can see having a better performing car.
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It should be limited to the US only.

NASCAR's popularity won't spread to other countires, and nor should it.

I got into it becasue it was a East Coast and Southern sport full of tradition and excitement. That statement doesn't comply with the NASCAR of today.

You take Jr. out of NASCAR (or any future Earnhardt) and NASCAR will stumble dramatically. and I can't wait for the day it happens.

NASCAR has shit all of it history and tradition.
What in the hell is wrong with you? Sorry if the redneck nascar image you identified with is changing, but that hardly gives you cause to be a dumbass southern inbred hick. Only a fool, confederate flag waving racist would be pissed off and pray for the death of his sport because it's not stuck in the dixyland, moonshine, bootleg circuit anymore.

The only good reason for Nascar to keep from going abroad is because that's what IRL did and it killed their league. Fans like to go to races and they can't do that if they're racing in Europe. They also can't see the events live on Sun like they're used to. But, I don't have a problem with them taking Busch events to different places, since nobody really goes to them anyway. I think they could manage it and get some good money and sponsers to get into the Busch series, which it's kinda lacking right now.
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can i ask you guys something. how do you have talent in racing i mean i can see having a better performing car.

It used to be easy to spot. When the money wasn't the determining factor, most of the drivers that had big succes were good.

Today you have to look at what they have done in other competition. Like Stewart. He dominated open-wheel (USAC and IRL). He was good in the Bush series. And he's even better in the Cup series.

Gordon, sucked in IROC (where all the cars are 100% identical). He never did a thing there. While he was a full-time competitor in the Busch series (two seasons), he won only three times. His first two seasons (before Dupont stepped up their money giving) he won only twice and finished 14th and 7th in points. And still it takes him 50 laps to pass ten cars. and still he will struggle at tracks he has dominated.

Earnhardt (and other great drivers) never struggled at their best tracks. They didn't need a perfect car to win. They could pass ten guys in ten laps (Earnhardt did that up until his death). They could take their car which was a sixth-to-tenth place car all day and put in the lead for the final twenty laps. And in equal equipment they could whip some ass (Earnhardt and Martin in IROC and Earnhardt at restrictor plate races).
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I did. Remember?? You're just following me around acting like a little bitch posting after every post I put down because...well, because hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

You're probably sitting there wishing you had a pic of my kids so you could Photoshop them onto something because that's all you can really do.

Sure...you can take a run at numbfuck SC or plainjane Josh or complete moron Alex or can't get out of his own way Boston...but I don't agree with you about Barry and it's "Rueben Droughns this" "weed that" "your kids this" "Look at me and my halo over my head that."

Whatever. First of all, you don't have any depth of knowledge about any of that stuff, so you're just talking out of your ass. Secondly, you wouldn't be saying any of that shit if Barry Bonds wasn't some roided up freak who you're in love with.

It's fucking gay. I have better things to do than deal with someone who can't even debate a point, rather changes the subject again and again to deflect the fact that he's dead wrong. It's what dumbass 6th graders do...


I honestly don't give a fuck about your opinion. Like I told Alex, they're just words on a screen. I can't believe you don't get that concept...but okay.

I mean...you're the kind of guy that thinks if you yell louder than the other person, you will win a debate. And that's not new either...I've pretty much thought that about you from day one...

I didn't want to put it that way, but since you want to press on...

Lame dude. Just lame. I have better shit to do. You probably should too...but I'm betting you don't...

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What in the hell is wrong with you? Sorry if the redneck nascar image you identified with is changing, but that hardly gives you cause to be a dumbass southern inbred hick. Only a fool, confederate flag waving racist would be pissed off and pray for the death of his sport because it's not stuck in the dixyland, moonshine, bootleg circuit anymore.

The only good reason for Nascar to keep from going abroad is because that's what IRL did and it killed their league. Fans like to go to races and they can't do that if they're racing in Europe. They also can't see the events live on Sun like they're used to. But, I don't have a problem with them taking Busch events to different places, since nobody really goes to them anyway. I think they could manage it and get some good money and sponsers to get into the Busch series, which it's kinda lacking right now.
Boy have you turned into a complete retard!

Redneck? Son, I'm from urban Pennsylvania.

The Southern and East Coast traditon of the REAL NASCAR represented the blue-collar time-card-punching americans. That is what I loved about NASCAR, was it's blue-collar roots. Fuck the confederate flag and anybody that waves it for anything but the lives that were lost for it. And fuck anybody that thinks NASCAR is in its prime.

Maybe you think dumping a great track like North Wilkesboro (an exciting short track) for California only because it is near Los Angleles is great. When you start ditching exciting racing at historic tracks simply becasue they aren't located near a huge Metropolitan area, then you aren't doing anything for your your drivers or fans. When you start penalizing drivers points because they said "shit" on TV and it could "hurt your sports image", you have ruined your sport.

Here's news flash for you. If NASCAR had the undeserved television deal it has now back in the 1980's they would have made more money then then they are right now.

Maybe you should stick to something you have a clue about EXO, you know nothing about NASCAR.
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I did. Remember?? You're just following me around acting like a little bitch posting after every post I put down because...well, because hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

You're probably sitting there wishing you had a pic of my kids so you could Photoshop them onto something because that's all you can really do.

Sure...you can take a run at numbfuck SC or plainjane Josh or complete moron Alex or can't get out of his own way Boston...but I don't agree with you about Barry and it's "Rueben Droughns this" "weed that" "your kids this" "Look at me and my halo over my head that."

Whatever. First of all, you don't have any depth of knowledge about any of that stuff, so you're just talking out of your ass. Secondly, you wouldn't be saying any of that shit if Barry Bonds wasn't some roided up freak who you're in love with.

It's fucking gay. I have better things to do than deal with someone who can't even debate a point, rather changes the subject again and again to deflect the fact that he's dead wrong. It's what dumbass 6th graders do...


I honestly don't give a fuck about your opinion. Like I told Alex, they're just words on a screen. I can't believe you don't get that concept...but okay.

I mean...you're the kind of guy that thinks if you yell louder than the other person, you will win a debate. And that's not new either...I've pretty much thought that about you from day one...

I didn't want to put it that way, but since you want to press on...

Lame dude. Just lame. I have better shit to do. You probably should too...but I'm betting you don't...

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Gordon has no talent. He is as exciting as a piece of cardboard, and he's a whining bitch. The Faggot can not attract old or new fans of the sport and coujld never be "the face" of NASCAR.

Being cardboard is Kenseth's problem. He has no flare. Could never be the guy.

Stewart can be. He has the talent and the flare. He could step up.

Harvick could be (if RCR would get their heads out of their asses). Same as Stewart.

You take Jr. out and the only guys that could be embraced by fans are Stewart, Harvick, and maybe Newman.
Mark Martin never was Mr. Personality and there aren't too many drivers that are more beloved by the fans by him.

Jimmie Johnson and the Busch Boys could be very heavily promoted.
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can i ask you guys something. how do you have talent in racing i mean i can see having a better performing car.
A LOT of it does have to do with having a great car (see Hendricks, Roush Racing). But you also have to know what works and doesn't in your car during a race, when to pit and where to draft.
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What in the hell is wrong with you? Sorry if the redneck nascar image you identified with is changing, but that hardly gives you cause to be a dumbass southern inbred hick. Only a fool, confederate flag waving racist would be pissed off and pray for the death of his sport because it's not stuck in the dixyland, moonshine, bootleg circuit anymore.

The only good reason for Nascar to keep from going abroad is because that's what IRL did and it killed their league. Fans like to go to races and they can't do that if they're racing in Europe. They also can't see the events live on Sun like they're used to. But, I don't have a problem with them taking Busch events to different places, since nobody really goes to them anyway. I think they could manage it and get some good money and sponsers to get into the Busch series, which it's kinda lacking right now.
A couple of drivers own cars in the Busch series (Mike Waltrip, Dale Jr. and Joe Nemechek off the top of my head), so that could help with sponsors.
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