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Old 04 Feb 2004, 03:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well thes teams are awful. And have to hope for the future right now. I didn't think Chicago would be the worst team right now though. But I did think that Pittsburgh would be this bad. But who do you think is worse? Chicago? Or Pittsburgh?
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Team wise: Pittsburgh, they have Lemieux and Fleury, but not much else. Chiacago actually has decent NHL players and Tuumo Ruutu.

Franchise wise: Chicago. They are an original 6 team with tradition in a hell of a sports market. This all goes back to their bastard of an owner Bill Wirtz who RAISED ticket prices this year.
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Old 04 Feb 2004, 04:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Team wise: Pittsburgh, they have Lemieux and Fleury, but not much else. Chiacago actually has decent NHL players and Tuumo Ruutu.

Franchise wise: Chicago. They are an original 6 team with tradition in a hell of a sports market. This all goes back to their bastard of an owner Bill Wirtz who RAISED ticket prices this year.
lmao. He raised ticket prices!? I didn't know that. Wow. I guess he actually thought they might do good this year.
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They thought that with Ruutu, theyd sneak in the playoffs.

But the reason he raises tickets is to make a profit, he cares more about finances than winning.
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They thought that with Ruutu, theyd sneak in the playoffs.

But the reason he raises tickets is to make a profit, he cares more about finances than winning.
But can he draw people to the games? I didn't think Chicago gets to many people comming out to their games these days. I could be wrong though.


But I hate teams that have so much money and don't spend any of it.
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Chicago has had 10 sub 10,000 crowds this year.

In Chicago, home games are not shown on TV and people don't care to begin with.

In short, Wirtz is the Mike Brown(Bengals owner) of the NHL
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Chicago has had 10 sub 10,000 crowds this year.

In Chicago, home games are not shown on TV and people don't care to begin with.

In short, Wirtz is the Mike Brown(Bengals owner) of the NHL
Are they just not shown because of blackouts? Or do they not have a tv deal with a local station?
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They have no TV deal. Wirtz doesnt allow it.
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They have no TV deal. Wirtz doesnt allow it.
Wow thats stupid. How are you suppose to build a fan base like that?
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He doesnt care about fan bases, he only cares about finances.

Blackhawks arent on the Chicago map any more thanks to Wirtz.
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He doesnt care about fan bases, he only cares about finances.

Blackhawks arent on the Chicago map any more thanks to Wirtz.
But if he doesn't care about a fan base, how is he suppose to make money?
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He also owns a winery, so he gets money regardless.

He makes money from merchendise and from die-hards that still goes to games.
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