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Old 17 Dec 2003, 07:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Wednesday, December 17, 2003


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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Coach Jim Fassel was fired by the New York Giants after a disappointing season that began with hopes of reaching the Super Bowl.


"It's time. They need a change, I need a change. It's the right thing to do," a teary Fassel said Wednesday.


After weeks of speculation about his future, Fassel requested a meeting with the owners Tuesday, saying if he was going to be fired he wanted to know. He asked to be allowed to coach the last two regular season games.


Co-owners Wellington Mara and Bob Tisch gave him the OK, provided Fassel assure them there was no way the team would quit on him. He did.


Fassel leaves as the third winningest coach (60-54-1) in the Giants' 79-year history -- behind only Steve Owen and Bill Parcells.


A Super Bowl team three seasons ago, the Giants (4-10) were expected to contend again this year but have dropped six straight games to fall to last place in the NFC East. It's the team's longest losing streak in 10 years.

Fassel has a year left on a contract that will pay him $2.7 million next season. He said he wants to coach again, however, and wouldn't mind being back on the job next year.


"I don't know what's going to happen," Fassel said. "I have the energy to coach. It all depends on how many jobs open up. I have been rumored for more than one. I am ready to go."


Before becoming the Giants' head coach, Fassel was the offensive coordinator with the Arizona Cardinals. He has been thought to be a candidate for Arizona's head coaching job if it should become vacant.


He also was head coach at the University of Utah from 1985-89.


Fassel took the Giants to the playoffs three times, including a loss to the Baltimore Ravens in the 2001 Super Bowl. Last season, the Giants made the playoffs at 10-6, then blew a 24-point third-quarter lead against the San Francisco 49ers and lost their wild card game 39-38. The game ended on a botched snap and what the league later acknowledged was bad officiating.


In retrospect, that defeat might have caused some indecision at key moments this season for Fassel.


This season began with promise as the Giants opened with a 23-13 victory over the St. Louis Rams, a team now tied for the best record in the NFC at 11-3.


But New York lost a stunner to Dallas in its second game, kicking what appeared to be a winning field goal with 11 seconds left, only to have the ensuing kickoff go out of bounds. That helped Dallas tie the game, then win in overtime.


The Giants were 2-3 going into their first meeting with Philadelphia. New York dominated but lost on an 84-yard punt return by Brian Westbrook with just over a minute left.


The season went downhill from there, although New York did hand Minnesota its first loss after the Vikings started 6-0.


The Giants had plenty of injury problems, including to tight end Jeremy Shockey, three starting defensive backs and three starters on an offensive line that wasn't very good to start with.


The line problems led to problems in the passing game and finally to an injury that knocked out quarterback Kerry Collins, who had started 67 straight games.


The last two home games have been marked by empty seats in the second half, something Wellington Mara noted after a loss to Buffalo. He wasn't worried about money -- the Giants have been sold out for years -- but about the fans' attitude toward the team.


"The crowd is our customers," Mara said. "When they leave, it's the same as someone calling up or writing and saying you're not doing what it is I want you to do.


"I'm very dissatisfied. The message comes across loud and clear. All it tells me is that we need to improve the product. And how we go about that is something we will discuss."


The low point came Sunday night with a 45-7 loss in New Orleans, the Giants' worst regular-season defeat since 1973. They are minus-13 in turnover margin, second-worst in the league, and star running Tiki Barber has lost several fumbles.


Among the possible successors to Fassel are LSU coach Nick Saban, former Jaguars coach Tom Coughlin, and the Patriots' two coordinators: Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis. Coughlin, Crennel and Weis were Giants assistants under Bill Parcells.

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Well it's not like anyone didn't see this coming so it's not a real shocker but I thought I'd post anyway. The Giants are just a horrible team period, I don't know what they were trying to say by this statement:

"after a disappointing season that began with hopes of reaching the Super Bowl."

Anyway any thoughts?
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Old 17 Dec 2003, 07:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I still don't understand why he is going to coach the last two games. If I were him, I would tell the Giants to go fuck themselves.
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seems kind of lame to have him stay on and coach.....doubt they will put up much of a fight for the last two weeks now.....
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seems kind of lame to have him stay on and coach.....doubt they will put up much of a fight for the last two weeks now.....
Well I have no problem with that seeing as they play Dallas this week.
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Even if they did put up a fight it wouldn't be much of one had he not been fired.

The Giants just suck that much.
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Even if they did put up a fight it wouldn't be much of one had he not been fired.

The Giants just suck that much.
Injuries is what really killed them this year. But they still suck with their starters, like they showed at the beginning of the season. And even players like Barber weren't playing like themselfs.
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Barber is brutal, that guy couldn't hold onto the ball to save his life.

But yeah they have a lot of injuries but that's no excuse for their poor play, it has some effect but you have to be able to manage somehow.
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Fassell is staying to coach because he isn't a quiter. He wanted to finish his season and he deserves it. I hope the Giants come out and say "Let's win one for the Gipper" and tear ass the last two games.

Hey Jim, why don't you come on down to sunny San Diego. Our players suck, but as much as the Giants do. Kick that old hag Mary in the teeth on your way over.
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Fassell is staying to coach because he isn't a quiter. He wanted to finish his season and he deserves it. I hope the Giants come out and say "Let's win one for the Gipper" and tear ass the last two games.

Hey Jim, why don't you come on down to sunny San Diego. Our players suck, but as much as the Giants do. Kick that old hag Mary in the teeth on your way over.
He's staying coach cause he doesn't have the balls to tell them to fuck off.
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god couldnt make a winner out of the chargers
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He's staying coach cause he doesn't have the balls to tell them to fuck off.
"He asked to be allowed to coach the last two regular season games." He could have packed his bags and sat by the phone waiting for offers. He took that piece of shit team to the super bowl, and the playoffs 3 times. Real profesionals don't just quit when things aren't going their way or when they know when they're job is up. Go ask Galloway and Glenn about quiting a season early if you're looking for ppl with no balls.

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It was an act of God that has allowed the piss poor cowboys to make it even this far into the season.
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He's in the same situation as Reeves. Their teams got into injury problems, so they fire them anyway. I would be pissed if I was Fassel, because when your playing with like 5 regular starters what can you expect. So I don't know how he couldn't be pissed about it.
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I'm sure he is pissed, but that's not a reason enough to walk early. It's bs that they fired him, given what he's done and what the situation is with his players. Reeves had been lashing out against the company though, so I can understand why they didn't want him around anymore anyways. Fassel has done a pretty good job and he doesn't deserve to be cut early, and that's why I think it's important for him to stay and finish his season. It sends a good message to other teams looking for coaches that he still has enough pride and dignity to go out and finish the job, even though he knows he's gone. IMO, that takes a lot more balls.
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Thsi move wasn't a surprise to me or anyone else. He'll land another job somewhere but Jimmy Johnson will be coaching this team next season.
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Thsi move wasn't a surprise to me or anyone else. He'll land another job somewhere but Jimmy Johnson will be coaching this team next season.
I hope he doesn't go there. He'll be able to turn them around.
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