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Old 07 Dec 2003, 07:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I now know what the favorite thing computers like to do. They like to screw the pac 10. Three years ago it was the ducks getting screwed and now its the USC which only lost by OVERTIME!!!! Where the sooners get into the sugar bowl by getting their butts kicked. Getting butts kick vs losing in OVERTIME which is a better lost.

Now I am glad college will have a playoff because Pac 10 during the winter will demand a playoff system.

The BCS computers has a built in west bias. NO TEAM FROM THE WEST SHALL EVER PLAY IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME ESPICALLY FROM THE PAC 10. THe programer put that code in there to make sure no PAC 10 team shall EVER PLAY in the Championship game NEVER EVER!!!!!!
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Old 07 Dec 2003, 07:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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BCS should now be called the ECS. EASTERN COAST SYSTEM
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Old 07 Dec 2003, 07:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have to agree, the Ducks did get screwed as well as USC. But I'm just glad my Wolverines are in the Rose Bowl, and are gonna kick the crap outta USC
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LSU is better than USC period,even though the poles say USC,the BCS got it right.
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Old 07 Dec 2003, 08:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The One you are wrong. USC IS ALOT BETTER THEN LSU. USC is very good at all places. They are good in Defense and they are excellet in Offense since USC's qb is as good if not better then Carlson Parlmer. USC's special team is good also. USC doesn't commit alot of fouls. USC is better then last year's USC team. THAT IS INDEED SCARY
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The Pac 10 didn't get screwed. USC might be #1 in the ap and coaches poll, but LSU clearly played a tougher schedule and deserved to face Oklahoma. Tell me how you can put USC in the sugar bowl when Oklahoma defeated teams such as nebraska, texas, oklahoma state, missouri, alabama, kansas, texas tech....ALL which are in a bowl game aside of Alabama who's on probation. Kansas State is a top 15 team and beat a bunch of teams from the big 12 as well.

LSU with wins over Georgia twice, florida, tennessee, auburn, alabama, arkansas, mississippi, the lists go on, all teams in bowl games again aside of alabama. So tell me how LSU and Oklahoma with wins over those teams are unworthy of the sugar bowl when usc gets wins over washington state who lost to the huskies who aren't making a bowl game, and playing teams like oregon state, arizona, arizona state and stanford? That is a very weak strength of schedule and LSU and Oklahoma is the right choice. They had a tougher schedule, come from better conferences compared to USC who had a cake schedule, from a weak conference and when Michigan wins by at least 21 points or more that's going to show all the pac 10 whiners and criers out there that the committee made the right choice and the BCS does work.
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G-money USC will kick Wolverines butt. The last time Wolverines played a pac-10 team they lost. They lost to the DUCKS!!!! Trojans are better then the DUCKS!!!!
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Yeah the Wolverines lost to the Ducks, then they went on to beat 5 top ten ranked teams in a row including #2 Ohio State by over 20 points! Beating Purdue, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Minnesota, Ohio State who are all in bowl games says a lot more then a team who again beat stanford, arizona state and arizona for crying out loud. Michigan lost to Oregon due to a few turnovers and bad calls that even the officials and the press said were messed up calls, plus they had a few players out for that game.

Either way the Wolverines are going to beat USC and i'll see how many pac 10 fans stick around in these threads when it does happen. I heard the same shit back in 97 when the Cougars faced the Wolverines in the Rose Bowl. Experience is going to be key, and with Navre and Chris Perry playing their last game as a Wolverine there is no way they're going to lose to USC. Put USC in any other conference and they don't do half as good. Hell you could put Navy in the pac 10, and they'd be going to a bowl game still. It's not hard when half your conference doesn't go to a bowl game because they're not good enough and they had a .500 record or worse.
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LMFAO, Bloodice owned Athos in this thread.


Everything Ice said is dead on. USC didn't beat anyone.
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And yet USC win the bowl game last year by 21 points. This years team is as good if not better then last years team. Ya they might not have as "a weaker schedule".
Ya the Michigan did win against Ohio state but OHIO STATE HAD A CRAPPY OFFENSE
They should have lost 5 more games and they get freaky lucky. ALL OF OHIO STATE games were withing 7 points. That is not a good team. Wisconsin lost 5 games. AS much as Oregan state. Michigan had their star qb and their star running back for the Oregan game. USC won all their games by 20 or so points. They even won against Washington State which at the time was rank 6 by the way, by 20+ points. Winning a top ten team by 20+ is hard to do and USC did just that. I go back to the only loss was by 3 points in OVERTIME!!!!


I will now go back to BCS SCREW THE PAC-10. LSU HAD THE EASIER SCHEDULE. They play ALABAMA which is 4-9, Aurban 7-5,

Well we shall see and more then likely I WILL BE RIGHT ON. WE WILL HAVE CO-Champion
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Again, USC has wins over stanford, washington, arizona and arizona state.....wow that's impressive. Michigans weakest team win was against Illinois. Auburn at least made a bowl game and alabama was 3 points / missed field goal away from beating Oklahoma which would've turned the momentum for the tide around this season. The SEC is a much stronger division then the Pac 10 as is the Big 12. USC should've scheduled a tougher non conference schedule. And the fact that yes they beat notre dame, but notre dame went 5-7 and that hurt them as well. Is USC good? Yeah they are, but when you look at strength of scheudle, opponets and everything else did USC deserve it over LSU and Oklahoma? No they didn't, and if Oklahoma had won against Kansas State it'd still have been LSU and Oklahoma. But the fact that they lost to a #10 ranked team with a tough schedule and major wins was the main reason Oklahoma got the BCS points. It also didn't help USC that most of the teams in the Pac 10 after the first 4 weeks of the season had a piss poor effort.

Just wait til after the bowl games and see how many of the Pac 10 teams win their bowl games....my prediction is none of them will.
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LSU is better than USC period,even though the poles say USC,the BCS got it right.
you got that right, One.....


this just furthers my point that there should either be a consistent theme by having every conference play a championship game, or no conference play a championship game.....


there are so many inconsistencies in the way the system is, it has no chance but to be flawed.....allow me to explain.....

the only requirement to be a bowl eligible team is you must win at least six games against division 1 schools and you must have at least a .500 winning percentage (ie...6-6)

teams have to schedule at least eleven games, but may schedule thirteen with the opportunity to play fifteen (ex. Kansas State is 11-3 with a bowl game left)

only nine of those games must be against division 1 schools.....

all conferences are not required to participate in a conference championship game.....four of the six BCS conferences do not do so.....none of them are in the championship game.....

the way the computer rankings go, you are given points for wins, strength of schedule, ranking in human polls and several other things.....

that all being said.....USC could have scheduled another game, which if they had won the extra game, they would be in.....

in pre-BCS, the Pac-10 champ always played the Big-10 champ, so they still wouldn't have been playing for a true championship.....

OU was the consensus #1 from preseason until now, they kept their end of the bargain, winning all games until the last one, a conference championship game which meant nothing to them.....after all, they went through the conference schedule undefeated.....

LSU and USC worked their way up the polls all season long, but they each lost a crucial early game.....the difference being USC lost to Cal, a perennial sub-.500 team, and LSU lost to Florida, a perennial championship contender.....advantage: LSU

USC became the #1 by default.....the voters had to drop OU because they lost their last game.....however, had OU lost early in the year, the likelihood is strong that they would have regained the #1 spot due to their overwhelming dominance and their strength of schedule.....

this was truly not a case of East Coast Bias, this was a case of USC went through a time of rebuilding and scheduled soft out of conference games, along with the fact that the Pac-10 is perennially a softer overall conference than three of the other BCS conferences (Big 12, Big 10 and SEC).....don't blame the writers or the BCS because USC got left out.....blame USC themselves.....
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Fact is the big ten and pac to along with the acc should add a conference championship but that's fine that they don't because most of the time there's not enough closeness between first and second to need it. Fact is notre dame, washington and arizona state were pre-ranked and didn't make a bowl game. Had they done so USC would be in the sugar bowl. Bad enough teams like UConn 9-3 and Air Force along with N. Illinois 10-2 were left out for teams like kansas and n'western both 6-6. But that's just the way it is. USC needs to schedule tougher non conference games and again it doesn't help that their conference isn't exactly a powerhouse.
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How in the hell did USC stay ahead of LSU in the Human polls anyway? Yes, USC did dominate against Orgeon (an unranked team), But LSU dominated against Georgia (#5 at the time). You would think that would let LSU jump USC.
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^^^^would have if OU hadn't lost Wolf.....but a jump from 3 to 1 wasn't feasible.....LSU is clearly the better team over USC.....
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