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Old 17 Apr 2007, 02:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Major School Shootings of Past 10 Years:

— Greenville, Texas. March 7, 2007. A 16-year-old male high school student fatally shot himself while in the band hallway area of the school around 7:15 a.m. No other students were injured. More than 100 parents rushed to the school to remove their students.

— Tacoma, Wash. Jan. 3, 2007. An 18-year-old male high school student was arrested for shooting and killing a 17-year-old male student at their school. The suspect allegedly shot the victim in the face and then stood over him, firing twice more.

— Springfield Township, Pa. Dec. 12, 2006. A 16-year-old male high school shot and killed himself with an AK-47 assault rifle in the hallway of his high school. The student, reportedly despondent over his grades, had the gun concealed in a camouflage duffle bag and fired one round in the ceiling to warn other students to get out of the way before committing suicide.

— Katy, Texas. Oct. 17, 2006. A 16-year-old male high school sophomore committed suicide by shooting himself with a handgun in the school's cafeteria courtyard.

— Nickel Mines, Pa., Oct. 2, 2006. A truck driver walked into a one-room Amish schoolhouse with two rifles, a semi-automatic handgun, and 600 rounds of ammunition, selected all the female students, and shot them execution-style, killing five and seriously wounding six. The man then shot himself, apparently having left suicide notes beforehand.

— Cazenovia, Wis., Sept. 29, 2006. A student walked into a rural school with a pistol and a rifle and shot the principal several times, critically injuring him.

— Bailey, Colo. Sept. 27, 2006. A lone gunman enters a high school and holds six female students hostage, sexually assaults them, kills one of them, and then himself after a four-hour standoff.

— Pittsburgh, Pa. Sept. 17, 2006. Five Duquesne University basketball players are wounded after a shooting on campus after a dance. One of the two shooters was allegedly upset that his date had talked to one of the athletes.

— Hillsborough, N.C. Aug. 30, 2006. After shooting his father to death, a student open fires at his high school, injuring two students. Deputies found guns, ammunition, and homemade pipe bombs in the student's car. The student had emailed Columbine High's principal, telling him that it was "time the world remembered" the shootings at Columbine.

— Essex, Vt. Aug. 24, 2006. A gunman shoots five people, killing two of them, in a rampage through two houses and an elementary school, before wounding himself.

— Red Lake Indian Reservation, Minn. March 21, 2005. The worst school-related shooting incident since the Columbine shootings in April of 1999. Ten killed (shooter killed nine and then himself) and seven injured in rampage by high school student.

— Cumberland City, Tenn. March 2, 2005. School bus driver shot and killed while driving a school bus carrying approximately 20 students by a 14-year-old student who had been reported to administrators by the driver for chewing tobacco on the bus.

— Nine Mile Falls, Wash. Dec. 10, 2004. A 16-year-old high school junior committed suicide at the high school's entryway. A canister holding fireworks, shotgun shells, and rifle cartridges was found in a backpack belonging to the student.

— Joyce, Wash. March 17, 2004. A 13-year-old student shot and killed himself in a school classroom where about 20 other students were present. The boy reportedly brought a .22-caliber rifle hidden in a guitar case and pulled it out during the 10 a.m. class.

— Philadelphia, Pa. Feb. 11, 2004. A 10-year-old student was shot in the face and died after being shot outside a Philadelphia elementary school. A 56-year-old female school crossing guard was also shot in the foot as she tried to scurry children across the street as bullets were flying and children were on the playground.

— Washington, D.C. Feb. 2, 2004. A 17-year-old male high school student died after being shot several times and another student was injured after shots were fired near the school's cafeteria.

— Henderson, Nev. Jan. 21, 2004. Gunman shoots and kills a hostage in his car on school campus. The gunman was allegedly looking for his ex-girlfriend as he searched the school full of children in an after-school program.

— Cold Spring, Minn. Sept. 24, 2003. Two students shot and killed by a 15-year-old boy at Rocori High School.

— Red Lion, Pa. April 24, 2003. Principal of Red Lion Area Junior High is fatally shot in the chest by a 14-year-old student, who then committed suicide, as students gather in the cafeteria for breakfast.

— New Orleans, La. April 14, 2003. One 15-year-old killed and three students wounded at John McDonough High School by gunfire from four teenagers in a gang-related shooting.

— October 7, 2002. Bowie, Md. A 13-year-old by was shot and critically wounded by the DC-area sniper outside Benjamin Tasker Middle School.

— New York, N.Y. Jan. 15, 2002. Two students at Martin Luther King Junior High School in Manhattan were seriously wounded when an 18-year-old opened fire in the school.

— Caro, Mich.. Nov. 12, 2001. A 17-year-old student took two hostages and the Caro Learning Center before killing himself.

— Ennis, Texas. May 15, 2001. A 16-year-old sophomore upset over his relationship with a girl, took 17 hostages in English class, and shot and killed himself and the girl.

— Gary, Ind. March 30, 2001. 17-year-old expelled from Lew Wallace High School kills classmate.

— Granite Hills, Calif. March 22, 2001. One teacher and three students wounded by a student at Granite Hills school.

— Willamsport, Pa. March 7, 2001. Classmate wounded by a 14-year-old girl, in the cafeteria of Bishop Newuman High School.

— Santee, Calif. March 5, 2001. A 15-year-old student killed two fellow students and wounded 13 others, while firing from a bathroom at Santana High School in San Diego County.

— Baltimore, Md. Jan. 17, 2001. 17-year-old student shot and killed in front of Lake Clifton-Eastern High School.

— New Orleans, La. Sept. 26, 2000. Two students wounded in a gun fight at Woodson Middle School.

— Lake Worth, Fla. May 26, 2000. A 13-year-old honor killed his English teacher, Barry Grunow, on the last day of classes after the teacher refused to let him talk to two girls in his classroom.

— Mount Morris Township, Mich. Feb. 29, 2000. A 6-year-old boy shot and killed a 6-year-old girl at Buell Elementary School with a .32 caliber handgun.

— Fort Gibson, Okla. Dec. 6, 2000. A 13-year-old boy, armed with a handgun, opened fire outside Fort Gibson Middle school, wounding four classmates.

— Deming, N.M. Nov. 19, 1999. 12-year-old boy came to school dressed in camouflage and shoots 13-year-old girl with a .22 caliber as students were returning from lunch.

— Conyers, Georgia. May 20, 1999. 15-year-old sophomore opens fire with a rifle and a handgun on Heritage High School students arriving for classes, injuring six.

— Littleton, Colo. April 20, 1999. Students Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17, killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 23 before killing themselves at Columbine High School.

— Springfield, Ore. May 21, 1998. Two teenagers were killed and more than 20 people hurt when a teenage boy opened fire at a high school after killing his parents. Kip Kinkel, 17, was sentenced to nearly 112 years in prison.

— Fayetteville, Tenn. May 19, 1998. Three days before his graduation, an honor student opened fire at a high school, killing a classmate who was dating his ex-girlfriend. Jacob Davis, 18, was sentenced to life in prison.

— Jonesboro, Ark. March 24, 1998. Two boys, ages 11 and 13, fired on their middle school from nearby woods, killing four girls and a teacher and wounding 10 others. Both boys were later convicted of murder and can be held until age 21.

— West Paducah, Ky. Dec. 1, 1997. Three students were killed and five wounded at a high school. Michael Carneal, then 14, later pleaded guilty but mentally ill to murder and is serving life in prison.

— Pearl, Miss. Oct. 1, 1997. Sixteen-year-old Luke Woodham of fatally shot two students and wounded seven others after stabbing his mother to death. He was sentenced the following year to three life sentences.

List of Deadliest Campus Shootings in United States:

—April 16, 2007: A gunman kills 32 people in a dorm and a classroom at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Va. The gunman later dies.

—Aug. 1, 1966: Charles Whitman points a rifle from the observation deck of the University of Texas at Austin's Tower and begins shooting in a homicidal rampage that goes on for 96 minutes. Sixteen people are killed, 31 wounded.

—Nov. 1, 1991: Gang Lu, 28, a graduate student in physics from China, reportedly upset because he was passed over for an academic honor, opens fire in two buildings on the University of Iowa campus. Five University of Iowa employees killed, including four members of the physics department, two other people are wounded. The student fatally shoots himself.

—May 4, 1970: Four students were killed and nine wounded by National Guard troops called in to quell anti-war protests on the campus of Kent State University in Ohio.

—Oct. 28, 2002: Failing University of Arizona Nursing College student and Gulf War veteran Robert Flores, 40, walks into an instructor's office and fatally shoots her. A few minutes later, armed with five guns, he enters one of his nursing classrooms and kills two more of his instructors before fatally shooting himself.

—Sept. 2, 2006: Douglas W. Pennington, 49, kills himself and his two sons, Logan P. Pennington, 26, and Benjamin M. Pennington, 24, during a visit to the campus of Shepherd University in Shepherdstown, W.Va.

—Jan. 16, 2002: Graduate student Peter Odighizuwa, 42, recently dismissed from Virginia's Appalachian School of Law, returns to campus and kills the dean, a professor and a student before being tackled by students. The attack also wounds three female students.

—Aug. 15, 1996: Frederick Martin Davidson, 36, a graduate engineering student at San Diego State, is defending his thesis before a faculty committee when he pulls out a handgun and kills three professors.

—Aug. 28, 2000: James Easton Kelly, 36, a University of Arkansas graduate student recently dropped from a doctoral program after a decade of study and John Locke, 67, the English professor overseeing his coursework, are shot to death in an apparent murder-suicide.
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People forget about the Texas shootings.
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— Granite Hills, Calif. March 22, 2001. One teacher and three students wounded by a student at Granite Hills school.

— Santee, Calif. March 5, 2001. A 15-year-old student killed two fellow students and wounded 13 others, while firing from a bathroom at Santana High School in San Diego County
I remember those days,Santana moreso than Granite and what a crazy day that was.
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Today in psychology our teacher pointed out that this week is Hitler's birthday, and ever since he can remember theres been something like this happen.

Columbine, VA Tech, Oklahoma City, and some other school shootings
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— Jonesboro, Ark. March 24, 1998. Two boys, ages 11 and 13, fired on their middle school from nearby woods, killing four girls and a teacher and wounding 10 others. Both boys were later convicted of murder and can be held until age 21.

One of the boys Mitchell Johnson, got out on his 21st birthday. The other one gets out this May.

"On January 1, 2007, Johnson was arrested after a traffic stop in Fayetteville, Arkansas on misdemeanor charges of carrying a weapon - a loaded 9 mm pistol - and possession of 21.2 grams of marijuana. Though the van Johnson was riding in was registered to him, the driver was 22-year-old Justin Trammell. Trammell and Johnson reportedly met at Alexander Youth Services correctional facility in Alexander, Ark., where Trammell was incarcerated after pleading guilty to the 1999 crossbow murder of his father, a crime committed when Justin Trammell was 15 years old. The pair are roomates and provided officers with the same Fayetteville address."
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You can only ignore a problem for so long, after that... the problem becomes a disaster... It's sad but some kids are so angry at the world, they feel the only way they can make things better for themselves is to inflict as much pain as possible upon others.
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makes me glad that here kids can got to school and the parents know they will be safe.

whats wrong with kids these days? It doesnt matter if they are "angry at the world" I used to be like that, but I would never have gone and shot or murdered people, I knew that was wrong, its common fucking sense.

Is it right to say where were the parents when they did this? why didnt they notice, get their kids help, teach them wrong from right? or is it just up to the kids?
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Is it right to say where were the parents when they did this? why didnt they notice, get their kids help, teach them wrong from right? or is it just up to the kids?
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Is it right to say where were the parents when they did this? why didnt they notice, get their kids help, teach them wrong from right? or is it just up to the kids?
People need to stop blaming parents for their kids' actions.

Most of the incidents listed involve high school or college kids. I'm pretty sure that by that age, those kids are making their own decisions, and they're probably not consulting their parents for advice on how to shoot up their school.

And if I remember correctly...with the Columbine shooting, I'm pretty sure the parents were the first to die, so

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Man that's a fucking excuse. I bet almost every person on here has felt like that at one point if only for a minute and none of us have done anything like that. The reason these kids went nuts may have had a tiny bit to do with their "anger issues" but for the most part their just sick twisted fucks who wanted to kill some people and why not kill the people who picked on me.

And that shit about people blaming the parents is fucked I heard that Seung-Hui Cho's parents have had to be moved multiple times since the shootings, that's fucked up the kid was in college his decisions were his and his alone.
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I wasn't blaming the parents, I said is it right to? and where were the parents? it was question more than blame.
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People need to stop blaming parents for their kids' actions.

Most of the incidents listed involve high school or college kids. I'm pretty sure that by that age, those kids are making their own decisions, and they're probably not consulting their parents for advice on how to shoot up their school.

And if I remember correctly...with the Columbine shooting, I'm pretty sure the parents were the first to die, so

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Just because the kids didn't ask permission to shoot people first....doesn't mean that the parents didn't do a shitty job raising them.
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For the question of where were the parents, that's easy. Doing their thing. I don't think the kiddies would've busted out with the assault rifles and ammo somewhere their parents could see/stop them.

And parents cannot be attached to teenager's hips.

And in the case of Columbine, the parents were the first to get the lead.

It seems almost like a rhetorical question.

I mean, I'm not trying to start anything...I'm just saying.

When I was 13, I tried cocaine for the first time.

When I was 14, I lost my virginity and got drunk for the first time.

When I was 16, I purchased a handgun and 100 rounds of ammunition for it.

When I was 17, I got stoned for the first time, took acid and did shrooms for the first time.

My parents knew/know none of this. When teenagers want to do something their parents will approve of, they will do it. I did, all my friends did. It's the way of things. Parents and their whereabouts during killing sprees are not at issue.

Late.
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For the question of where were the parents, that's easy. Doing their thing. I don't think the kiddies would've busted out with the assault rifles and ammo somewhere their parents could see/stop them.

And parents cannot be attached to teenager's hips.

And in the case of Columbine, the parents were the first to get the lead.

It seems almost like a rhetorical question.

I mean, I'm not trying to start anything...I'm just saying.

When I was 13, I tried cocaine for the first time.

When I was 14, I lost my virginity and got drunk for the first time.

When I was 16, I purchased a handgun and 100 rounds of ammunition for it.

When I was 17, I got stoned for the first time, took acid and did shrooms for the first time.

My parents knew/know none of this. When teenagers want to do something their parents will approve of, they will do it. I did, all my friends did. It's the way of things. Parents and their whereabouts during killing sprees are not at issue.

Late.
The question is not where were the parents during the shooting....the question is where were the parents PRIOR to the shooting?

I've smoked, toked, drank, fought, etc etc....my parents were lacking, but they did instill me with a basic respect for human life. My father taught me to deal with the shit life dishes out.

The parents of the gunmen in this scenario probably didn't take the time to actually raise their kids.

All children do shit their parents disapprove of...but all kids don't kill.
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I agree, and most of the anger kids have is because of what parents did or didn't do.
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