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Old 29 May 2008, 08:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Clinton backers to protest outside rules meeting
By CALVIN WOODWARD
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Thu May 29, 5:45 PM ET




WASHINGTON - The Democratic presidential race is heading into a fractious end game as supporters of Hillary Rodham Clinton mobilize for a protest Saturday to demand that the party count two outlawed primaries that favored her.

Protesters planned to rally outside the Washington hotel where the party's rules committee will tackle the vexing question of how to punish Michigan and Florida without completely disenfranchising Democratic primary voters from those states.

At least several busloads of Clinton supporters were anticipated from Florida and perhaps scores of people from Michigan as well as demonstrators from various parts of the country. Barack Obama's campaign discouraged a counterprotest, although his supporters vied with Clinton backers for the limited public seats inside the meeting.

Among the scheduled speakers at the rally are Clinton fundraiser Elizabeth Bagley; two members of Congress who back the New York senator, Reps. Stephanie Tubbs Jones of Ohio and Corrine Brown of Florida; and Kim Gandy, president of the National Organization for Women. Her group's political action committee has endorsed Clinton.

Party officials voted before the two January primaries, without much controversy outside those states, to strip Michigan and Florida of their convention delegates as a penalty for holding their primaries earlier than Democratic rules allowed. All the Democratic candidates agreed to the rules and avoided campaigning in either state. Obama removed his name from the Michigan ballot.

Clinton won a majority of votes cast in both the renegade contests.

Obama is close to clinching the Democratic nomination no matter what happens Saturday. As his delegate lead has widened, the Illinois senator has become more open to a compromise that would count some delegates from the two states even if that puts Clinton closer behind him.

Still, party unity is proving elusive, despite the wrap-up of the primary season Tuesday when Montana and South Dakota hold the final contests, after Puerto Ricans vote Sunday.

The pressure is intense on the rules committee to find a solution. Without one, the party's internal fight could drag on through the summer and into a divided convention in Denver, a nightmare for Democrats.

The Clinton campaign said it was not organizing the rally.

"I am aware that there are lots of people very passionate about this topic who are coming," Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson said.

Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said his side was hoping to avoid a "scene."

"Obviously, with the click of a mouse it would be pretty easy for us in the mid-Atlantic to get thousands of people there, but we don't think it's a helpful dynamic to create chaos and in the interest of party unity, we're encouraging our supporters not to protest," he said.

Obama supporter David Wilhelm, a former party chairman, echoed that sentiment. "We're not going to have Obama folks protesting. We're not going to turn this thing into a circus."

Party officials said the roughly 500 public seats for the meeting were spoken for within minutes. The party warned those coming that they won't get to ask questions and that "to maintain the decorum of the meeting, banners, posters, signs, handouts, and noisemakers of any kind are strictly prohibited."

Mary Boergers, a former Maryland state senator and volunteer county coordinator for Clinton in suburban Washington, sent an e-mail to her contacts, encouraging them to get seats inside so Obama's supporters don't fill them all. She also asked them to come to the rally "wearing red, white and blue but no Hillary material."
Great.

First of all, love the fact that the powers that be in the Liberal party have abandoned Hillary and now the media has resumed calling her Hillary Rodham Clinton to give her that "Bitch From Hell" appearance.

Secondly...well, this is just all too funny for me to continue. Burn, baby burn.

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Great.

First of all, love the fact that the powers that be in the Liberal party have abandoned Hillary and now the media has resumed calling her Hillary Rodham Clinton to give her that "Bitch From Hell" appearance.

Secondly...well, this is just all too funny for me to continue. Burn, baby burn.

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Clinton should just give up already, hell so should McCain. We already know that Obama has the presidency wrapped up.
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Ron Paul supporters also have something planned for the Republican convention as well.
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Old 30 May 2008, 12:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The only thing the dems could ever rally behind was hating Bush. Now they can't even agree on what's next. It's hilarious that the party is so far to the left they've buried Clinton.
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The only thing the dems could ever rally behind was hating Bush. Now they can't even agree on what's next. It's hilarious that the party is so far to the left they've buried Clinton.
I've read a little of Obama's newest book and he actually seems pretty middle of the road to me so far.
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I've read a little of Obama's newest book and he actually seems pretty middle of the road to me so far.
He is ranked as the most liberal member of the senate. He is backed by the most liberal organizations in this country including moveon.org. When you're done with his book, read this http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/ and see how it looks. Also, it's worth noting, that McCain asked him to be a part of their little gang, a real opportunity to show bipartisonship, and Obama said no way. You will here more about that in any debate they have. The real truth is, Obama is nowhere near the middle, does not want to be in the middle, is not financed by anyone near the middle and is really a puppet socialist being strung up by Soros and co.
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He is ranked as the most liberal member of the senate. He is backed by the most liberal organizations in this country including moveon.org. When you're done with his book, read this http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/ and see how it looks. Also, it's worth noting, that McCain asked him to be a part of their little gang, a real opportunity to show bipartisonship, and Obama said no way. You will here more about that in any debate they have. The real truth is, Obama is nowhere near the middle, does not want to be in the middle, is not financed by anyone near the middle and is really a puppet socialist being strung up by Soros and co.
Even if you don't like Obama (which I do), I think if we have another conserative president right after Bush ran our fucking country into the ground things will just continue to get worse...especially the War, and the Economy. But atleast McCain is an intelligent man, unlike W.

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Yeah on a Tuesday morning when the venue is a about 1/4 full Ron Paul will get to speak infront of his supporters, so it should have the same attendance as a TNA house show.
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Even if you don't like Obama (which I do), I think if we have another conserative president right after Bush ran our fucking country into the ground things will just continue to get worse...especially the War, and the Economy. But atleast McCain is an intelligent man, unlike W.

Just my $.02
What the fuck is wrong with you? Fuck you and your 2 cents. Take those pennies, rub them together and shove them up your ass. And the true measure of your idiocy is when you say shit like another conservative will run this country into the ground. What the fuck do you think your boy wants to do? Do you even know what his plans are? You don't know dick about the middle east. You don't know dick about the economy. You don't know dick about social security, healthcare or taxes. You're a sheltered naive fucking brat who grew up on mtv and doesn't know dick about the real world. Seriously, just fucking kill yourself so I don't have to worry about fucking morons like you making decisions some day.
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What the fuck is wrong with you? Fuck you and your 2 cents. Take those pennies, rub them together and shove them up your ass. And the true measure of your idiocy is when you say shit like another conservative will run this country into the ground. What the fuck do you think your boy wants to do? Do you even know what his plans are? You don't know dick about the middle east. You don't know dick about the economy. You don't know dick about social security, healthcare or taxes. You're a sheltered naive fucking brat who grew up on mtv and doesn't know dick about the real world. Seriously, just fucking kill yourself so I don't have to worry about fucking morons like you making decisions some day.
Ok I thought we were cooling this down, but you just can't seem to let it go. I have the right to my opinion, because after all it is a free country isn't it? Or did I miss the memo saying that we were no longer a democracy? I think that we need to pull out of Iraq, and that is my biggest issue with McCain. He made a comment a while ago something like that we would stay in Iraq until the end even if it means staying there for 100 more years. That comment really bothered me. I just think because Bush is such a terrible president, McCain just isn't right for the country right now. If McCain was president from 2001-2009 I am sure here would have done a great job, but I just think Obama is the better choice for this upcoming election.

And if you don't like my opinion you can choose not to read it and respond to it, you said so yourself.

EDIT: For the record, MTV & the Real World suck.
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He is ranked as the most liberal member of the senate. He is backed by the most liberal organizations in this country including moveon.org. When you're done with his book, read this http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/ and see how it looks. Also, it's worth noting, that McCain asked him to be a part of their little gang, a real opportunity to show bipartisonship, and Obama said no way. You will here more about that in any debate they have. The real truth is, Obama is nowhere near the middle, does not want to be in the middle, is not financed by anyone near the middle and is really a puppet socialist being strung up by Soros and co.
Interesting article, (yes I read it), and I'm going to change my original statement.

Yes, it seems that he is more liberal than most. However, it also seems that he's more willing than others to work across the board. (you're thing with McCain somewhat refutes that however)

I guess in the end, the thing that really draws me to Obama, is that he seems to me to be one of the few politicians out there trying to figure out how to solve problems, rather than just throwing poo at the opposition. I also agree with many of his policies to boot. I guess though that these next few months are really going to be where I make my decision on who I support. It really doesn't help that I've been a McCain supporter for a while now, and also agree with a lot of what he says.
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You guys are retarded.

Obama is bullshit. Obama could not even guarantee troops out of Iraq by 2013.

But you Obama supporters know DICK. You didn't actually watch the debates..All you know is the liberal media telling you the bullshit about how he's the second coming. Fuck Obama.
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Obama can't beat McCain.

I have no idea what Obama's platform is...other than "Change" which isn't a platform since EVERY candidate is a change...his campaign is one of the most innocuous I've ever seen. If and when he seals up the Presidential nomination, he's going to have to start having a platform if he wants to win.

Given the fact that he is being sponsored (yes, I liken political elections to NASCAR races, because that's almost exactly what they are) by a bunch of raving commies, he's not going to be able to play the Happy Centrist lie that he has to date. McCain won't beat himself by saying stupid shit like Hillary did.

Given the split in the Democratic Party right now, all McCain has to do is add Joe Leibermann as Veep on his ticket and that'd pretty much make November a formality.

And does anyone really think Obama will carry more than 3 states south of the Mason Dixon line?

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You guys are retarded.

Obama is bullshit. Obama could not even guarantee troops out of Iraq by 2013.

But you Obama supporters know DICK. You didn't actually watch the debates..All you know is the liberal media telling you the bullshit about how he's the second coming. Fuck Obama.
True, but what 3rd party from runner would even be able to compete will all of Obama vs McCain media attention?
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I'd like to see Ventura run. He is a name..And could garner attention.
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