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Old 06 Jul 2006, 08:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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MIAMI (AP) — It's a slow time of year for avid gamblers. The basketball and hockey playoffs are over. Football, even the preseason variety, is weeks away.
But gambling on whether Mother Nature will deliver another frenzied hurricane season has all the tantalizing unpredictability that many online betters can't resist.

Along with bets on what day Britney Spears will give birth or whether the space shuttle Discovery will launch on time, experts say hurricanes are the newest betting trend in pop culture. Experts say the business is booming, with a few thousand people having placed their hurricane wagers with online casinos, which are based in foreign countries.

Traditional U.S. casinos do not offer hurricane bets, and the U.S. Justice Department argues that online gambling is illegal, but there is disagreement on that.

"Betting on baseball gets boring. You're looking for a little action every now and then," said Ken Moore, who plunked down $75 in hurricane bets. "Betting on the hurricanes, I couldn't resist it."

Moore, a graphic designer from Quincy, Mass., will make a profit of about $72.50 if exactly two Category 3 or higher hurricanes pummel the U.S. this season. He will make $5 if at least one hits. If none hit or three or more hit, he loses. Category 3 storms have winds of at least 111 mph.

But some victims of Hurricane Katrina and the seven other storms that walloped the U.S. over the past two seasons think the betting is somewhat tacky if not downright cruel.

Virginia Saussy Bairnsfather said her fellow New Orleans residents have developed a pretty good sense of humor since the Category 4 hurricane devastated the city, killing 1,577 people last year. It's a sort of "if you don't laugh, then you'll cry mentality," she said.

And while she isn't appalled by the betting, she would like to see the money better spent.

"I wished that everyone who placed a bet on where a hurricane is going to land, would take at least 10% of that money and do something to help victims," said Bairnsfather, who lost the first floor of her home to 8-feet of Katrina's floodwaters.

The hurricane bettors have several propositions when putting down their money. One is how many hurricanes will hit the United States? Another is how many will hit Florida and what category will they be? The safest bets offer 2.25 to 1 odds that at least two Category Three storms will hit the U.S, according to numbers from online casino BetCRIS.com when the odds closed June 1.

Residents in coastal areas, be forewarned, gamblers think the chances of six or more storms hitting the U.S. (5 to 1 odds) are more likely than no hurricanes hitting at all (6 to 1 odds).

"Hurricanes are a hot subject right now," said Calvin Ayre, founder and CEO of online casino Bodog.com. "Anything they have an interest in generally, they also like to bet on, if they're gamblers."

Since weather forecasts are based on probability, it's an easy leap to oddsmaking. A team of mathematicians from Costa-Rica-based BetCRIS.com released their 2006 numbers about two months before the National Weather Service issued their forecast.

"If you compare their numbers with ours, they're dead on," BetCRIS.com CEO Mickey Richardson said.

After two years of offering hurricane odds during fairly mild seasons, Richardson said he did question whether to continue after Katrina.

"But our clients who were used to seeing us offer these events pretty much requested it again," Richardson said. "We tailored it in a way where we to tried to make it in good taste. We stayed as far away as we could from hurricane alley in the gulf in Louisiana and Mississippi. The last thing I want to do is profit off of a disaster that happened last year."

The average hurricane gambler isn't looking to make thousands. It's mostly recreational, with bets averaging $100, Richardson said.

But a spokesman from the National Weather Service in Miami said the agency releases its forecasts so people can prepare, not so they can turn a profit gambling.

"I think it's pretty sad that people are betting on an issue that involves peoples' lives and property," spokesman Greg Romano said. "Hurricanes are dangerous and for people to bet on them is really, really sad."

While gambling on touchy subjects may offend some, betting experts say people have wagered on much worse.

In the 1790s, people in Philadelphia and New York bet on which city would have more deaths during a bad yellow fever outbreak. In 18th century London, people would take bets as patients were being wheeled into surgery on whether they would survive, said David Schwartz, director of center for Gaming Research at the University of Nevada at Las Vegas.

"People used to bet on things that involved death a lot more because people weren't so sensitive about it," Schwartz said. "I'm sure people who were personally effected by a hurricane who either lost a home or lost loved ones probably wouldn't think it's such an amusing thing to bet on."

Last year a group of professors from the University of Miami founded an electronic futures market that let the public, students and trained forecasters invest in shares representing selected coastline spots where they thought a hurricane would strike.

Moore doesn't feel guilty rolling the dice on a potential disaster, he said it's all in good fun.

"If I got a little windfall, I'd probably give some to the Red Cross," Moore said. "I don't think I'd feel bad, but I think it's the right thing to do."


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I can understand how it could be tacky, but cruel? Can somebody explain how this is cruel?

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Are they also taking bets one the number of people that will die?

Or maybe a pool with the amount of days that FEMA and other govnt agencies will take to respond.....

Then how much the price of gas, chicken and building materials go up.
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I used to run a celebrity death pool where everyone kicked in $10 and picked ten different celebs they thought would die...and when someone on someone's list kicked, we paid out and started all over again...

I won a few times. I had Walter Matthau, Jack Lemmon and Ronald Reagan.

My friend Bill won with Walter Payton, Derrick Thomas, Lane Staley and some other sap who's now a worm farm.

That shit was fun...

Typical first round draft picks usually include, Muhammad Ali, Richard Pryor, Scott Weiland, Bob Hope, The Pope...not the new one but the dead one...



People die every day. Why not bet on it??

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Then final Dirty Harry installment.

I'd like to arrange my own Dead Pool some day.
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So I take it we all agree it is not cruel. Btw, is anybody betting on this?
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Weiland is clean.

If he wasn't he'd be in jail right now. And besides, even if he wasn't clean why would he deny it? He's been known as a junkie since the get go which I doubt he cares about. So why would he even bother lying about it now?
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Weiland is clean.

If he wasn't he'd be in jail right now. And besides, even if he wasn't clean why would he deny it? He's been known as a junkie since the get go which I doubt he cares about. So why would he even bother lying about it now?
Weiland's been clean before...and he's been clean before...and he's been clean before again.

I fuckin' love the guy...I hope he doesn't cash in...but back when me and my people were doing the Dead Pool, he wasn't clean for very long...

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Weiland's been clean before...and he's been clean before...and he's been clean before again.

I fuckin' love the guy...I hope he doesn't cash in...but back when me and my people were doing the Dead Pool, he wasn't clean for very long...

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He's been clean since like 2003 now which is pretty good... for him.

And as weird as it sounds, playing with Slash, Duff and Matt now has helped him stay clean. Those DeLeo brothers were just as bad as Scott was. That was basically the season why STP broke up. One of the DeLeo bro's (I forget which one) was on Scott's ass about quting so he did. Not to long later Scott busted one of them for shooting up. And thats what ended one of the greatest rock bands of all time.

I know alot of people still think that Slash, Duff, and Matt are still fucked up, but they're not. Velvet Revolver is like one big rehab help group now. They're all helping eachother stay sober and its worked so far. I really don't see why they would let it all crumble now.
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As for Weiland...he's a junkie, and heroin is forever. Some people can stay clean, others can't...but it's forever, and it can all come back to him at any time for whatever reason. Trust me...I've had the unfortunate displeasure of knowing a couple of junkies personally...the lust for that shit never leaves a person once it's in.

As for Slash and Duff...they allegedly kicked Steve Adler out of the band for being on smack...but there's no question that they're just really really, REALLY, really really drunk.

And I don't really give a fuck if Matt Sorum lives or dies, to be totally honest.

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