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Old 05 May 2006, 12:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Judge to Moussaoui: 'It's Absolutely Clear Who Won'
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U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema got the last word Thursday as she formally handed down a lifetime prison sentence for Zacarias Moussaoui.

"You will die with a whimper," Brinkema told the Al Qaeda conspirator — since he will never be allowed to speak publicly again — as she sentenced him to six life terms in prison without the possibility of parole for his role in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

A jury on Wednesday sentenced the Al Qaeda conspirator to life without the possibility of parole instead of sending him to death row. Not all jurors were convinced that Moussaoui, who was in jail on immigration charges Sept. 11, had a significant part in the attacks, despite his claims that he did.

Moussaoui got one last chance to speak publicly Thursday before he is sent to the "Supermax" facility in Florence, Colo., a super-maximum security prison with little to no contact with the outside world. That facility also houses failed shoe-bomber Richard Reid, among other notorious criminals.

i think America failed not sentencing this guy to death. Everyone deserves the right to a fair trial, even those involved in terrorism. But how does America drop the ball on this verdict? How much more evidence than an admittance of guilt could one possibly need? I for one am ashamed of these jurors, In my opinion, America lost this one.

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Old 05 May 2006, 12:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I say we won in the sense that, isn't death what he would have wanted?

He gets to sit for the rest of his life knowing he failed.
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I know I'm not wanted in America's affairs, but I have to say...

America. Life is a greater punishment than death.

... Fuck, that sounds so emo...
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We should have sentenced him to death in the manner that they would execute... lets say... a gay guy... over there.

Bury him partially, then publicly stone him to death.
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We should have sentenced him to death in the manner that they would execute... lets say... a gay guy... over there.

Bury him partially, then publicly stone him to death.
They do that!?
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Gay = Death in the Middle East. Usually through a truly barbaric method.

See, this is the shit that they AREN'T telling you guys about Muslims in Europe. If you guys knew about all of the crazy fucked up shit that they do, you woudn't be on their side, ever. All these left-wingers in San Francisco side with them constantly despite knowing damn well of their flagrant human rights violations. Lately, I've been thinking that the liberals have the equivelant to the uneducated redneck conservative. They have the moron college kids that are equally stupid to the opposite end of the political spectrum. Same stupidity, different ideology.

Erm. Where was I?

I guess that is what you guys get for having government run TV.
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I say we won in the sense that, isn't death what he would have wanted?

He gets to sit for the rest of his life knowing he failed.
i dont really know if death is what he wanted, but it's what he deserves. I can see the new rationale as well, i can commit mass murder by bomb, airplane, whatever the means, and although i might be in prison for the rest of my life, i will still be alive, still able to see loved ones on a regular basis, able to watch tv, read, sleep, eat, and tons of other things that the unfortunant people of 9/11 can never do again.

not to mention you and i have to pay our tax dollars for the rest of his life to provide all of that stuff to him. America is sending the message to terrorists that we are soft. and we are.
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A Martyr has far more power then a guy who has to rot away in the middle of nowhere.
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i dont really know if death is what he wanted, but it's what he deserves. I can see the new rationale as well, i can commit mass murder by bomb, airplane, whatever the means, and although i might be in prison for the rest of my life, i will still be alive, still able to see loved ones on a regular basis, able to watch tv, read, sleep, eat, and tons of other things that the unfortunant people of 9/11 can never do again.

not to mention you and i have to pay our tax dollars for the rest of his life to provide all of that stuff to him. America is sending the message to terrorists that we are soft. and we are.
I didn't say we had to provide for him.

Hell if I was the warden there, and he was hungry, I'd tell him to catch his own damn food.
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They do that!?
Lmao...seriously...I thought you had this World View of things...beheadings, firing squad, torture with a meat grinder, stoning, mass murder...all that's regular stuff over there. Funny you didn't know.

People are pissed cuz some guys got naked pics taken of them and their holy book got pissed on and such...but noone ever talks about what those people do. Which is a big part of why the Anti American thing can suck my sweaty nut sack.



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Lmao...seriously...I thought you had this World View of things...beheadings, firing squad, torture with a meat grinder, stoning, mass murder...all that's regular stuff over there. Funny you didn't know.

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Gay = Death in the Middle East. Usually through a truly barbaric method.
Oh well, I'm glad I'm not living there.

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See, this is the shit that they AREN'T telling you guys about Muslims in Europe. If you guys knew about all of the crazy fucked up shit that they do, you woudn't be on their side, ever. All these left-wingers in San Francisco side with them constantly despite knowing damn well of their flagrant human rights violations. Lately, I've been thinking that the liberals have the equivelant to the uneducated redneck conservative. They have the moron college kids that are equally stupid to the opposite end of the political spectrum. Same stupidity, different ideology.
You know, it's not all Muslims that are psychopathic religious fundamentalists...

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I guess that is what you guys get for having government run TV. :err
The BBC is completely independent of the government...

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You know, it's not all Muslims that are psychopathic religious fundamentalists...
I know.
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You know, I was quoting Trev...
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You know, it's not all Muslims that are psychopathic religious fundamentalists...
Just their governments and their society at large. Way to be an apologist, dude.



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