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Old 15 Aug 2005, 03:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Cindy Sheehan, what a tool.

Somebody please tell this woman to stop pissing on her son's grave. It's bad enough that she already got exactly what she's crying for now, but she's become nothing but a Michael Moore poster child. If she really wants to honor her son, she'd be championing success in Iraq and supporting the rest of the thousands of troops there instead of pulling some silly publicity stunt trying to undermine the efforts. Is it really going to make her happy if the US fails miserably in Iraq? Is that what she wants? Or would it make more sense to pick up and support the same cause that her son did. Maybe that might just be a greater way to honor his sacrifice. This woman needs to give it up and quit being a tool for left wing radicals.
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Old 15 Aug 2005, 05:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The only sucess in Iraq has been the removal of Hussein. Everything else is a disaster.

Everything else sounded good Exo.

Being in the military myself, she is wrong. To honor a follow comrade, you remeber him and embrace all that he/she fought and stood for. Not supporting the US Troops and its allies troops, is not honoring her son, that is, as you said "pissing on his grave".

Soldiers don't have a say-so, we follow orders or we go to jail. Even if the whole war is nothing but a front to get Haliburton billions more, our guys are still over there trying to do their missions, staying alive, and trying to get back home with all og their body parts still intact. If that mother can't understand that, she can shoot her self in the head so the rest of here community doesn't have to ignore her anymore.
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I did. Remember?? You're just following me around acting like a little bitch posting after every post I put down because...well, because hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

You're probably sitting there wishing you had a pic of my kids so you could Photoshop them onto something because that's all you can really do.

Sure...you can take a run at numbfuck SC or plainjane Josh or complete moron Alex or can't get out of his own way Boston...but I don't agree with you about Barry and it's "Rueben Droughns this" "weed that" "your kids this" "Look at me and my halo over my head that."

Whatever. First of all, you don't have any depth of knowledge about any of that stuff, so you're just talking out of your ass. Secondly, you wouldn't be saying any of that shit if Barry Bonds wasn't some roided up freak who you're in love with.

It's fucking gay. I have better things to do than deal with someone who can't even debate a point, rather changes the subject again and again to deflect the fact that he's dead wrong. It's what dumbass 6th graders do...


I honestly don't give a fuck about your opinion. Like I told Alex, they're just words on a screen. I can't believe you don't get that concept...but okay.

I mean...you're the kind of guy that thinks if you yell louder than the other person, you will win a debate. And that's not new either...I've pretty much thought that about you from day one...

I didn't want to put it that way, but since you want to press on...

Lame dude. Just lame. I have better shit to do. You probably should too...but I'm betting you don't...

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She's an attention whore... nothing more.

Her son VOLUNTEERED for the military... god forbid he actually be called upon to do his duty in that job. God forbid we use our troops.

The phrase is "War Is Hell" for a reason. Shit happens. She gets to mourn, but what she's done is dishonorable.
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All of it could have been avoided entirely.
Captain Crayola could have just talked to her.

We're at WAR and here he is taking a month long vacation.
Reagan's whole 8 years in office had about 375 days of vacation time.
Bush has had 360 and counting with just 5 years.

Oh and here's Bush's wonderful response to Cindy.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article...&mode=&order=0
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All of it could have been avoided entirely.
Captain Crayola could have just talked to her.

We're at WAR and here he is taking a month long vacation.
Reagan's whole 8 years in office had about 375 days of vacation time.
Bush has had 360 and counting with just 5 years.

Oh and here's Bush's wonderful response to Cindy.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article...&mode=&order=0
Don't bother HIJ they don't take that into consideration. this is the only president that spends more time on vacation than on the white house. Probably there is a rat infestation.
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Old 16 Aug 2005, 09:46 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Don't bother HIJ they don't take that into consideration. this is the only president that spends more time on vacation than on the white house. Probably there is a rat infestation.
Dunno bout rats but there's certainly a chimp.
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Old 16 Aug 2005, 01:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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All of it could have been avoided entirely.
Captain Crayola could have just talked to her.

We're at WAR and here he is taking a month long vacation.
Reagan's whole 8 years in office had about 375 days of vacation time.
Bush has had 360 and counting with just 5 years.

Oh and here's Bush's wonderful response to Cindy.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article...&mode=&order=0
I don't know if you know this or not, but the President did meet with her a year ago. Here's what she had to say:

"I now know [President Bush] is sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis. I know he's sorry and feels some pain for our loss."

and she continues "...that was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together."

And yet, you point to an article written by some fringe radicals that contains another position by Sheehan:

"Sheehan held a sign that said, 'Why do you make time for donors and not for me?'"

Nor did they mention she's part of Moore's camp.

As far as the comments about vacations, you do realize he travels with most of his cabinet and it's spent working. Maybe you could publish how many days he spends at Disneyland, not that it's relevant in any way to dealing with a crazy woman screaming murderer on your front lawn. I'm sure if she showed up at Clintons doorstep he'd invite her into the oval office and have her suck his dick.

I like how you're trying to take an issue and spin it onto something else. As if the presidents primary duty is to hold the hand of every citizen and pat them on the head, tell them it'll all be okey. Maybe the president should meet with every family who lost a loved one or every injured soldier, afterall, he's met with a lot of them already. The problem is, he already met with Cindy and her husband. She expects him to give her a daily consolation.

Not to mention she's now a self proclaimed expert on foreign relations. Just ask her about solutions for Israel.

This woman has become a new symbol for the radical left to hate america.
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"sigh" Poor exo and his right-wing inspired hatred towards a grieving mother.

honestly I really don't care about either of them right now (Bush and Cindy) but to say that she is a symbol of any political agenda is a very irresponsible comment. You should work for O' Reilly I'm sure he'll give you work or something.

Mothers grieve, people act differently at the sudden death of loved one specially their son/daughter, but what do you know about that.

Let the women cry her lungs out and bush go Biking and go to little league games and let faith deal with both of them. I saw the report for the first time all I said was "woopie doo" and moved on.
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"sigh" Poor exo and his right-wing inspired hatred towards a grieving mother.

honestly I really don't care about either of them right now (Bush and Cindy) but to say that she is a symbol of any political agenda is a very irresponsible comment. You should work for O' Reilly I'm sure he'll give you work or something.

Mothers grieve, people act differently at the sudden death of loved one specially their son/daughter, but what do you know about that.

Let the women cry her lungs out and bush go Biking and go to little league games and let faith deal with both of them. I saw the report for the first time all I said was "woopie doo" and moved on.
Now I am left-leaning, but I have to agree with Exo on this. She's just allowing her story to be exploited for the goal of making Bush look like the bad guy in all of this. In the end she's not going to get a meeting with him, and she knows this.
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Now I am left-leaning, but I have to agree with Exo on this. She's just allowing her story to be exploited for the goal of making Bush look like the bad guy in all of this. In the end she's not going to get a meeting with him, and she knows this.
Meh thats life. Like right-wing nutjobs aren't victims of this too.

Both political parties are spineless dicks and we know it.

I respect the woman's reason for her temper tantrum... I mean she lost her son and that ain't cool and a future father I kinda synpathize with her. but the media playing around with her like this thats another story.
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Now I am left-leaning, but I have to agree with Exo on this. She's just allowing her story to be exploited for the goal of making Bush look like the bad guy in all of this. In the end she's not going to get a meeting with him, and she knows this.
I agree too. Bush met with her... what? Twice?

That isn't enough?

Now she's just spouting off about Israel... she's using her dead son as a ticket to left wing fame.

And, Tooth, all Exo did was point out that what HIJ was talking about (vacation days) has nothing to do with the issue at hand. He was just trying to distract us into another debate. That doesn't warrant a personal attack.
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I agree too. Bush met with her... what? Twice?

That isn't enough?

Now she's just spouting off about Israel... she's using her dead son as a ticket to left wing fame.

And, Tooth, all Exo did was point out that what HIJ was talking about (vacation days) has nothing to do with the issue at hand. He was just trying to distract us into another debate. That doesn't warrant a personal attack.
Personal attack? In case you forgot he is the first one who has no reguard of someone else's family.

I don't consider my take a "personal attack". Just because he says that she is a tool yadda yadda yadda. I respect her reasons for grieving her lost son but I'm not too fonded at the idea of her meeting with the prez just because she wants to. I'm also in disagreement on how some people are getting this out of proprtion like Michael Moore witch in my opinion sunk to a new low going on piggyback ride just to say "bush is evil".

I'm 50/50 here. Yes she has a right to proclaim peace now that her son is dead so no more mothers have to go thru the shit she went through but no I don't think the prez should meet with her and the mainstream media is either attacking her or attacking bush.
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"sigh" Poor exo and his right-wing inspired hatred towards a grieving mother.

honestly I really don't care about either of them right now (Bush and Cindy) but to say that she is a symbol of any political agenda is a very irresponsible comment. You should work for O' Reilly I'm sure he'll give you work or something.
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In case you forgot he is the first one who has no reguard of someone else's family.
I never said I hated her, the poor tragic greiving mother who thinks she deserves extra special treatment and personal audiences with the president whenever her mood swings in a different direction.

I said she was a tool for those who hate america and they're exploiting her and her misguided, skewed views. Also, it should be noted, that her husband is filing for divorce because of what she's become. So not only has she lost her son, she's used it as fuel to dry her family apart. Please tell me how much regaurd she has for her own family before you try to put words in my mouth. I gave up alternatives for her that would do a lot more good than standing around blaming everything that's wrong in the world on Bush and Jews.

BTW, it's perfectly fine if I launch into a personal attack on this woman if I want to. The fact that she's launched one on the president is justifacation enough. If she has the freedom to express her opinion in the most hateful way possible, then I have the freedom to critisize her. Like it or not, in this country, freedom of speech doesn't only serve as a shield for people to hide behind when they want to attack the president. I don't agree with her cause, because it's not a just one. It's a bitter, vengefull hatred that's been perpetrated by a few masterfull propigandist, Michael Moore and Sam Husseini.

Why does she not blame the cowardly terrorist that killed Casey? Why isn't she protesting backward, archaic Islamic societies which brainwash their children into thinking it's perfectly ok to blow yourself up? I guess it's easier for her to blame her own country.

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I never said I hated her, the poor tragic greiving mother who thinks she deserves extra special treatment and personal audiences with the president whenever her mood swings in a different direction.
Granted.

Like I said I don't think she needs to meet with the president she doesn't need to meet with him to point out the obvoius.

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I said she was a tool for those who hate america and they're exploiting her and her misguided, skewed views. Also, it should be noted, that her husband is filing for divorce because of what she's become. So not only has she lost her son, she's used it as fuel to dry her family apart. Please tell me how much regaurd she has for her own family before you try to put words in my mouth. I gave up alternatives for her that would do a lot more good than standing around blaming everything that's wrong in the world on Bush and Jews.
How does this help the people that hate america? if people are pointing this out is because at some extent she has a point. Or you don't feel that you were schemed into this war, where is everything that Bush proclaimed left and right that Saddam has? She lost her son and thought her son died for a noble cause and turns out that it was a steaming pile of horseshit, how would you feel? And her husband filing for divorce.... well thats his views and also shows how shallow americans can at times.

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BTW, it's perfectly fine if I launch into a personal attack on this woman if I want to. The fact that she's launched one on the president is justifacation enough. If she has the freedom to express her opinion in the most hateful way possible, then I have the freedom to critisize her. Like it or not, in this country, freedom of speech doesn't only serve as a shield for people to hide behind when they want to attack the president. I don't agree with her cause, because it's not a just one. It's a bitter, vengefull hatred that's been perpetrated by a few masterfull propigandist, Michael Moore and Sam Husseini.
At least they have some balls and expose things either in front of a television set and til this day nobody has been able to refute Moore's movie other than a few right-wing nutjobs who think the moon is made out of cheese and Bush walks among Big Bird on Sesame Street.

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Why does she not blame the cowardly terrorist that killed Casey? Why isn't she protesting backward, archaic Islamic societies which brainwash their children into thinking it's perfectly ok to blow yourself up? I guess it's easier for her to blame her own country.
Wow deja vu all over again. This is the same thing O' Reilly told in his show last week and never let her guest answer him. Guess he was afraid of the answer.

Answer is simple. We were told that Iraq had X and Y arsenals, WMDs and such and now where are they? Every time Bush was confronted with his words he was downplauing them. We were used, billions and billions of dollars that could of been used in this nation and bring a healthier future but instead were used this money on a assumption that never happened. To some point I feel betrayed by my own leader and at the same time we are losing the battle on terror. Maybe this is why Powel left, cause he felt ashamed of serving this administration. Kinda like dedicating you whole to something and all of a sudden you find out that it's a lie.

Oh well live and learn... Too bad this lesson is costing nearly 2,000 lives and billions of dollars.
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Granted.

Like I said I don't think she needs to meet with the president she doesn't need to meet with him to point out the obvoius.?
That she's gone crazy? Pretty obvious to me.

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How does this help the people that hate america?
Now they have another person they can play all over radical islamic television and the bbc. Now they have someone they can point to and say, "Look, even she hates her president." It's the same thing the vietamese did with Kerry when he denounced our troops. This is no different. When she goes on a lunitic run she's given amunition to the same people who killed her son. This is just one way that she is helping them.

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if people are pointing this out is because at some extent she has a point.
How is screaming at the president having a point? Bitching is not a point.

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Or you don't feel that you were schemed into this war, where is everything that Bush proclaimed left and right that Saddam has?
Yes yes, of course, the same old rant. "Why don't we wait untill he drops a nuclear weapon on New York before stopping him?" you often ask. Nevermind he was bribing the UN, paying off sanctions that he violated numerous times, had shown a willingness to use chemical weapons to kill hundreds of thousands of his own people, and you still seem content to wait untill he had furthered anymore of his ambitious plans. He didn't have any WMD's left, well thank god we stopped him in time. People like you would prefer to wait untill he slaughtered millions before crying about not stopping him in time and blaming that on the US. There's no pleasing people like you.

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She lost her son and thought her son died for a noble cause and turns out that it was a steaming pile of horseshit, how would you feel?
Freedom for millions is a pile of horseshit is what you're saying. Freedom form an opresive dictatorship for another generation is a pile of horseshit is what you're saying. nice.

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And her husband filing for divorce.... well thats his views and also shows how shallow americans can at times.
I like this because it really exposes your true feelings. You say "...shows how shallow americans can (be) at times." Which is your way of blaming Cindy's family's problems once again on America. It's not because she pushed her husband away with an insane crusade, it's because of America. You, like Cindy, like Islamic jihadists, find a way to blame everything back on America.

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At least they have some balls and expose things either in front of a television set...
I'll stop right here, since you're becoming incoherant and ranting. But it takes little to zero "balls," to join up with a group of radicals and scream at the president while hiding behind the first amendment to justify extreme and radical actions.


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...and til this day nobody has been able to refute Moore's movie other than a few right-wing nutjobs who think the moon is made out of cheese and Bush walks among Big Bird on Sesame Street.
Micheal Moore is one of the most debunked persons on the planet. Go visit bowlingfortruth.com and you'll see plenty of his hoaxes exposed in one place. But of course, then you'd have to look at the reality of his actions without persecuting the messenger. You, like Moore himself, lash out at any of his critics as being right-wing fanatics. Being objective is something that Moore lacks, unfortunately, you seem to be one of his sheep willing to eat up anything he puts in front of you as fact. Imagine how sad this country is where people are willing to belive what they see on television and in propogandist movies more than what the reality of the situation is.

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Wow deja vu all over again. This is the same thing O' Reilly told in his show last week and never let her guest answer him. Guess he was afraid of the answer.
Oh, but I'm not. After I read your answer, I'll be sure to dismantle it for everyone.

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Answer is simple. We were told that Iraq had X and Y arsenals, WMDs and such and now where are they?
Go to an airport and you'll see a fleet of WMD's. Why is it so hard for you to understand that Islamic Jihadist are a real danger to the entire world. Did you miss what happened on 9/11? Did you miss London, or Spain? Why then do you insist that we wait around untill a verifiable lunitic like Saddam Hussein develop nuclear weapons further than he already had?

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Every time Bush was confronted with his words he was downplauing them.
Oh please, he's been attacked relentlessly by the same people who used his positions to gain votes. Like mister Kerry, who ran around voting for war and saying if you don't believe the threat Saddam poses, then don't vote for me, who are now doing everything they can to undermine our troops and sabatage the middle east forever.

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We were used,
Don't speak for me.

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billions and billions of dollars that could of been used in this nation and bring a healthier future...
Like paying for more and more socialist programs, more money that could have been used to redistribute wealth and be given to illegal imigrants. More money that the govt. could have taken away from me. Personally, that money that you're crying about is better used insuring this country has a future without the threat of nuclear and chemical attacks by ruthless dictator. That sounds like a healthier future to me.

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but instead were used this money on a assumption that never happened.
Once again, thank god.

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To some point I feel betrayed by my own leader and at the same time we are losing the battle on terror.


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Maybe this is why Powel left, cause he felt ashamed of serving this administration.
Powel promised four years, no more, no less. Don't try to come up with new reasons for him.

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Kinda like dedicating you whole to something and all of a sudden you find out that it's a lie.
Maybe you should pay more attention to Moores lies before you start smearing anyone esle.

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Oh well live and learn... Too bad this lesson is costing nearly 2,000 lives and billions of dollars.
Blah blah blah, same ol sad song, cry me a river.
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