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Old 07 Oct 2004, 05:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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WASHINGTON (AP) Faced with a harshly critical new report, President Bush conceded Thursday that Iraq did not have the stockpiles of banned weapons he had warned of before the invasion last year, but insisted that "we were right to take action" against Saddam Hussein.

President Bush made his comments before departing the White House for a campaign event.
By Leslie E. Kossoff, AFP

"America is safer today with Saddam Hussein in prison," Bush said in a surprise statement to reporters as he prepared to fly to Wisconsin.

"Much of the accumulated body of our intelligence was wrong and we must find out why," Bush said.

But, he maintained that the Iraqi leader retained the "means and the intent" to produce weapons of mass destruction.

Bush spoke one day after Charles Duelfer, the American weapons hunter in Iraq, presented to the Senate and the public a report that Saddam's weapons of mass destruction programs had deteriorated into only hopes and dreams by the time of the U.S.-led invasion last year. The decline was wrought by the first Gulf War and years of international sanctions, the chief U.S. weapons hunter found. (Related story: Final report: No WMD in Iraq)

What ambitions Saddam harbored for such weapons were secondary to his goal of evading those sanctions, and he wanted them primarily not to attack the United States or to provide them to terrorists, but to oppose his older enemies, Iran and Israel, the report found.

Bush ignored the report in a hard-hitting new campaign speech attacking Kerry on Iraq Wednesday. He made his first public comments about the final document as he prepared to board his helicopter en route to Wisconsin for more campaigning.

"The Duelfer report showed that Saddam was systematically gaming the system, using the U.N. oil for food program to try to influence countries and companies in an effort to undermine sanctions," Bush said. "He was doing so with the intent of restarting his weapons program once the world looked away."

"He could have passed that knowledge onto our terrorist enemies," Bush said. "Saddam Hussein was a unique threat, a sworn enemy of our country, a state sponsor of terror operating in the world's most volatile region. In the world after Sept. 11, he was a threat we had to confront and America and the world are safer for our actions."

Bush promised to act on the recommendations of the president's commission investigating flawed intelligence on weapons of mass destruction, chaired by former Sen. Chuck Robb, D-Va., and Republican Laurence Silberman, a senior judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit.

Campaigning in Pennsylvania Wednesday, Bush defended the decision to invade.

"There was a risk, a real risk, that Saddam Hussein would pass weapons or materials or information to terrorist networks," the president said in a speech in Wilkes Barre, Pa. "In the world after Sept. 11, that was a risk we could not afford to take."

A spokesman for his opponent, Democrat John Kerry, said the report "underscores the incompetence of George Bush's Iraq policy."

"George Bush refuses to come clean about the ways he misled our country into war," Kerry spokesman David Wade added.

"In short, we invaded a country, thousands of people have died, and Iraq never posed a grave or growing danger," said Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va.

Vice President Dick Cheney asserted in Miami Thursday that the report justifies rather than invalidates Bush's decision to go to war. It shows that "delay, defer, wasn't an option," Cheney told a town-hall style meeting.

Duelfer's Iraq Survey Group drew on interviews with senior Iraqi officials, 40 million pages of documents and classified intelligence to conclude that Iraq destroyed its undeclared chemical and biological stockpiles under pressure of U.N. sanctions by 1992 and never resumed production.

The U.S.-led invasion pushed one of Iraq's leaders into seeking chemical weapons to defend the country. But it doesn't appear that Saddam's son Uday located any.

Iraq ultimately abandoned its biological weapons programs in 1995, largely out of fear they would be discovered and tougher enforcement imposed.

"Indeed, from the mid-1990s, despite evidence of continuing interest in nuclear and chemical weapons, there appears to be a complete absence of discussion or even interest in BW at the presidential level," according to a summary of Duelfer's 1,000-page report.

And Iraq also abandoned its nuclear program after the war, and there was no evidence it tried to reconstitute it.

Saddam's intentions to restart his weapons programs were never formalized.

"The former regime had no formal written strategy or plan for the revival of WMD after sanctions," the summary says. "Neither was there an identifiable group of WMD policymakers or planners separate from Saddam. Instead his lieutenants understood WMD revival was his goal from their long association with Saddam and his infrequent, but firm, verbal comments and directions to them."

Duelfer's findings contradict most of the assertions by the Bush administration and the U.S. intelligence community about Iraq's threat in 2002 and early 2003. The White House had argued that Iraq had chemical and biological weapons stockpiles and production lines and had reconstituted its nuclear weapons program.

The United States led an invasion into Iraq in March 2003, taking the capital, Baghdad, within weeks. Since then, the United States and its allies have fought a dangerous insurgency of Iraqis as well as Islamic extremists who have come to Iraq to kill Americans.

Some 1,196 coalition personnel have been killed since the start of the war. Of those, 1,060 are American, 67 British and 69 are from other coalition countries. Unknown numbers of Iraqis have also died on both sides of the conflict.

Before the war, Saddam's chief success was in manipulating an oil for food program that began in 1996, to avoid the sanctions' effects for a few years, acquiring billions of dollars to import goods such as parts for missile systems. Duelfer also in the report accused the former head of the U.N. oil-for-food program of accepting bribes in the form of vouchers for Iraqi oil sales from Saddam's government.
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Old 08 Oct 2004, 11:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well what can you say? They went to Iraq to Find WMD and they didn't find any, Heaps of People must be Pissed!
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Old 08 Oct 2004, 11:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This is like what. The Ninth different reasng he has given so far. I stopped caring and I knew from day one they ere going to come back empty handed so why would I even bother to talk about this.
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This is like what. The Ninth different reasng he has given so far. I stopped caring and I knew from day one they ere going to come back empty handed so why would I even bother to talk about this.
Maybe empty handed but thier pockets are quite overflowing due to all the oil they're stealing.
The only reason Bush called for war was to rape Iraq's natural resources.
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Maybe empty handed but thier pockets are quite overflowing due to all the oil they're stealing.
The only reason Bush called for war was to rape Iraq's natural resources.
Or because Iraq was selling oil on the Euro...

We haven't seen a drop of oil out of Iraq...
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Or because Iraq was selling oil on the Euro...

We haven't seen a drop of oil out of Iraq...
We haven't?

I believe that Haliburton has stations set up over there. Of course I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure they're regulating the oil over there right now..
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We haven't seen a drop of oil out of Iraq...
Haliburton has. Ask Cheney.
As far as I know. The fuel Haliburton was overpricing to the US was made from Iraq oil or Kuwaitt I don't even care anymore.
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Haliburton has. Ask Cheney.
As far as I know. The fuel Haliburton was overpricing to the US was made from Iraq oil or Kuwaitt I don't even care anymore.
Yeah... and Boosh* = Hitler... "Page"... The B.F.E.E. is gonna get you Mr. Moore....

Just teasing....

Fact is... we went into Iraq partially because they were selling oil on the Euro... but if it were entirely for oil we would have just set up a puppet government in Venesuela or something.... we get more oil there than from Iraq...
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Yeah... and Boosh* = Hitler... "Page"... The B.F.E.E. is gonna get you Mr. Moore....

Just teasing....

Fact is... we went into Iraq partially because they were selling oil on the Euro... but if it were entirely for oil we would have just set up a puppet government in Venesuela or something.... we get more oil there than from Iraq...
Uh News Flash. Bush already tried that in Venezuela

Do you think the recall election came out of nowhere? Rich people from Venezuela are pro-amerian and most of them are directly associated with Either Bush or any other politician either republican or democrat. The recall election in Venezuela was based on Oil only. Did you knew that Venezuela is not getting a dime from the oil being exported there. Hugo Chavez wants to change that and also wants to help the raising poverty there but the rich don't want to do that. And now since their plan backfired and the recall got voided by the people they are yelling it was a fraud since they say they had the mayority.

And what reason for invading Iraq is this? Like the sixth?

Edit: BTW I don't think it is a reasonable reason for invading iraq. And I meant the Selling oil to Europe thing"

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Selling on the Euro is a MAJOR economic threat... and reason enough to go to Iraq IMO... tho all the reasons count...
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Including the WMDs?
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Including the WMDs?
Yes. The intelligence was false. 30 other countries saw the same thing and agreed with us...

France and Germany didn't go for several reasons:

1. They're useless...

2. They had big money there...

3. THey were selling on the Euro...
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Iraq selling oil in Europe has what exactly to do with us?


"Oh my god! They're selling our oil! We can't have that!"
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Iraq selling oil in Europe has what exactly to do with us?


"Oh my god! They're selling our oil! We can't have that!"
Selling oil on the Euro was going against OPEC and a MAJOR economic threat...
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Selling oil on the Euro was going against OPEC and a MAJOR economic threat...
Well I can understand OPEC but how was it an economic threat? The Europeans need oil, Iraq needs money. It's possible that Saddam may have eventually bought WMDs with his oil money but judging by the progress he's made over the past ten years it seems doubtful. We had him under a tight leash and he knew it. We went in there and bombed his weapon factories in 98 and we got all over him just for a no fly zone he ignored. Saddam may've been a brutal dictator but to call him a threat to the rest of the world seems drastic. If he hasn't bought any WMDs before we invaded then who's to say that he would some point in the future? Judging by the condition of post-war Iraq it seems to me that Saddam was much more concerned about buying his own palaces and zoos then trying to find ways to use his oil money on anything that could harm the rest of the world.
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