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The Swift Boat Vets for Truth story first got traction on talk radio and in the blogosphere, but now the story is spreading to the mainstream media and John Kerry is taking a beating.
In fact, the Washington Times has posted a very convincing piece from Swift Boat Vets for Truth John O'Neill and Jerome Corsi that seems to conclusively show that John Kerry lied to get his first Purple Heart. Here are the highlights... Quote:
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-- John Kerry's doctor was lying -- John Kerry's commander was lying -- John Kerry's own biography was wrong Moreover, keep in mind that if John Kerry's lied about his first Purple Heart -- and that looks highly likely at this point -- it didn't just enable him to get a medal he didn't deserve, it allowed him to get out of the line of fire in Vietnam 243 DAYS EARLY. Then, just to add insult to injury, it looks as if Kerry used a medal that he didn't deserve as a stepping stone to fame and fortune in the anti-war movement and in politics. If that is the case, John Kerry is "Unfit to Command". These are serious and VERY CREDIBLE charges, especially in light of the fact that John Kerry has already been caught lying about spending Christmas of 1968 in Cambodia, and they should be treated as such. That means stonewalling and smear attacks on people making the charges aren't going to cut it. John Kerry should comment publicly on what really happened that day, release his FULL military records, explain why his biography says he hadn't taken any fire, and he should also talk about his meetings with Hibbard and Letson. It looks bad for Kerry at this point, so if he has an explanation, he should go ahead and offer it up... You can't tell me that this is irrelevant. The entire base of Kerrys campaign lies on Two points. 1) Kerry is not George W. Bush. 2) Kerry was in Vietnam for 4 months and flaunts it shamelessly. -JBL- |
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I will not comment on anything related with the gang Swift Boat Veterans For Bush since there is more than enough evidence to refute each and everyone of them.
Here are some of the links. http://www.eriposte.com/media/liars_...iftboat.htm#2A http://www.washingtondispatch.com/op...cle_9754.shtml They are long reads but well worth the time. It shows their main source of mone for their ads and also shows the people contradicting themselves on their accounts. |
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You actually believe anything those swift jackasses say?
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![]() kerry's used it as a centerpiece since bush as called himself a "war president" before and has never even even served. another thing, kerry made this the centerpiece because bush didn't even go, and besides, you'd have to be a fuckin dumbass to listen to swiftboat dumbasses for truth |
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heh Looks like I found even more evidence that the Swift Boat Veterans for Bush are a bunch of lying cunts.
Source: Smirking Chimp The game of politics is an ugly game, and there’s no better example of this than the current campaign against John Kerry by a group called Swift Boat Veterans for The Truth. The group has been attempting to counter John Kerry’s claims of honorable service in Vietnam by employing the classic smear campaign tactics of misinformation, lies, and distortion of the truth. What’s worse is the so-called liberal media has been too lazy, unable, or unwilling, to get to the truth. John O’Neill has been a Kerry adversary for over thirty years. He’s co-written a book called Unfit For Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry. O’Neill wrote the book with Jerome R. Corsi, a longtime friend of O’Neill. Some people say that Corsi is a bit of a loon. He posts to the ultra right-wing message board Free Republic under the user alias JRLC. Corsi, who holds a PhD, posts such thought-provoking items as this gem, about Chelsea Clinton, from the Free Republic, November 29, 2001: “We know where Hillary was -- she was on the NBC TODAY show being interviewed by Little Katie Communist, her unofficial campaign manager for her run to be commander-in-chief (barf!) But the real question is: WHERE IS CHUBBIE CHELSEA? Is she in Kabul in danger, looking for a Starbucks? Waldo wants to know. Please, Little KatieCommunist, HELP US FIND CHELSEA. THE SITUATION MAY BE URGENT.” I’m guessing crazy-man is referring to the Sept. 11 attacks when he poses his question about Chelsea Clinton’s whereabouts. So the guy sounds nuts. And John O’Neill chooses to befriend a grown man who would attack the looks of a young woman, and the two have written a book claiming John Kerry is unfit to lead the nation as commander-in-chief. They back their claims with testimony from 60 swift boat veterans who “served” with John Kerry in Vietnam. By “served” they mean, “were in the Vietnam Theater of operations the same time as John Kerry.” See, none of the 60 actually served directly with John Kerry. I’m a Desert Storm veteran, so I’d be as accurate as the Swift Boat guys in saying that I served with General Norman Schwarzkopf during the first Gulf war. This is an example of intentionally misleading the public by technically telling the truth * yes, these men were in Vietnam the same time John Kerry was * but they were not on Swift Boat PCF-94 with Kerry. Unfit For Command attempts to make the case that Kerry was an incompetent opportunist in Vietnam who exaggerated the circumstances surrounding his injuries and the situations that resulted in Kerry being awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star, and three Purple Hearts. The Swift Boat Vets are currently running a misleading television ad where, again, a group of men say the served “with” Kerry in Vietnam and offer their opinions on how Kerry did not deserve the decorations he received in combat. Keep in mind that these are the 35-year-old recollection of men who, again, did not serve directly with Kerry. Senator John McCain has denounced the group and has called on President Bush to do the same. Not surprisingly, Bush has so far refused to distance himself from a group using the tactics of misinformation to distort the truth. What it comes down to is three versions of the “truth”: the testimony of the Swift Boat Vets; John Kerry’s account of his tour in Vietnam; and the official Department of Defense record of Kerry’s service. Frankly, I have no use for the Swift Boat Veterans For The Truth and do not believe they are telling the truth. The military records released by Kerry support his version of events, not the Swift Boat Vets version. The non-partisan group Fact Check dot org (a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, http://www.factcheck.org has analyzed the claims of the Swift Boat Veterans and found them to be largely without merit, especially when you consider the story of Jim Rassmann, the U.S. Army special forces officer Kerry and his swift boat crew saved after being thrown overboard from Kerry’s boat following a nearby mine detonation. In the water, Rassmann was shot at by snipers on both sides of the Dong Gung canal of the Bay Hap River. Rassmann, a long-time Republican, has often said John Kerry saved his life that day. Who to believe? A group with an axe to grind? An author of a book known for his crazed rantings at a conservative Internet message board? Or the testimony of a man who lives today as a direct result of actions taken by John Kerry? Kerry, his crew, and Rassmann’s account of events paint the real picture of what happened to John Kerry in Vietnam. We’re unlikely to get any in-depth reporting from the so-called liberal media on this issue. One last point to consider: John O’Neill never met John Kerry in Vietnam. And Kerry, unlike our current commander-in-chief, did not get to take time out from active duty for several months to work on a political campaign. Kerry put his life on the line. How long he served in Vietnam is irrelevant. The fact that he did serve is. Thats it for me. I proved my point wich is more than enough. |
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I said I was not going to say anything else about this but I think this is something worth telling. I read an article from thw New York Times and they have found that the SBVT and Bush Campain are directly linked to each other. Also a profile of the main organizers of the group that I found a very interesting read. This article is VERY long but very well documented. I'm gonna post this and whoever is willing to read it go ahead and do so it is a very interesting report. I will divde it into three posts.
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well i didn't read the whole article(too lazy) but i think john o'neil is the biggest piece of shit walking american soil. all the guy does is bad mouth kerry and he never even served with him! i'd like you to go ask any vietnam vet missing their legs or arms and see if they support kerry because i bet they do, kerry protested the war because there was no point to it and for these morons to go ahead and say there wasn't any attrocities is ludicrous, of course there was attrocities, it's a fucking war! kerry came back trying to end this thing when he saw it was unjust and pointless and these vets are pissed about it. they all need to shut the fuck up. i haven't seen one vietnam vet missing a limb in SBVFT, i think the whole orginisation is bull shit, the main base for this whole thing is because that little pussy fuck o'neil is mad because he hasn't gotten as far as kerry, and don't deny it.
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