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Old 16 Aug 2004, 01:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Of course, Ronald Reagan was a no-brainer, as was James Madison because he was the "Father of the Constitution". Andrew Jackson also made the list (although that's in part for things he did before he became President).

The last one was a tough call for me. Polk, Monroe, Eisenhower, & Adams probably would have been legitimate choices, but I finally settled on Eisenhower for the final slot.

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Of course, Ronald Reagan was a no-brainer, as was James Madison because he was the "Father of the Constitution". Andrew Jackson also made the list (although that's in part for things he did before he became President).

The last one was a tough call for me. Polk, Monroe, Eisenhower, & Adams probably would have been legitimate choices, but I finally settled on Eisenhower for the final slot.

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oh please, reagan wasn't that great. there's a reason why he's called the great communicator, not the great president.

he didn't end the cold war either trev, so don't use that as an argument.
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Old 16 Aug 2004, 05:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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he didn't end the cold war either trev, so don't use that as an argument.
Who did? It didn't end itself.
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Old 16 Aug 2004, 05:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Who did? It didn't end itself.
the fact that the Soviet's were getting their asses handed to them by a bunch of half assed mountain boys and were still trying to compete with us is what bankrupted them. if the thing collapsed in 1990 we'd be hailing George H.W. Bush as the "great communicator" and the "ender of the cold war"
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^So you believe that the increase in defense spending did not lead tot hem attempting to do the same in order to challenge us: the only real power other than them?


Also, Reagan was not called the great communicator for ending the cold war. I don't know where you got this idea.
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^So you believe that the increase in defense spending did not lead tot hem attempting to do the same in order to challenge us: the only real power other than them?


Also, Reagan was not called the great communicator for ending the cold war. I don't know where you got this idea.
i didn't get that idea. i was just using his tag line, i knew it had nothing to do with him ending the cold war


as for the defense spending spree, as i said, they were in a war with a country about 1/20th their size and were losing, when they're spending a shit load of money on that, and still trying to compete with us, they're going to go bankrupt.

i'd also like to add on that Russia ALWAYS had huge military spending, and that it would catch up to them one way or another.

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Do you believe the same will happen to the US?
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Do you believe the same will happen to the US?
no.

our technology far exceedes anything any country has that isn't an ally of ours.
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Maybe, you missed it but your logic for the USSR's inevitable bankruptcy (which is true, I just believe that Reagan sped things up by a decade or two) was that they spent so much on the military. We now spend at least twice as much on the military as any other country spends on their military.
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Maybe, you missed it but your logic for the USSR's inevitable bankruptcy (which is true, I just believe that Reagan sped things up by a decade or two) was that they spent so much on the military. We now spend at least twice as much on the military as any other country spends on their military.
we need to spend a lot on the military, america's military=planet earth's police force
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we need to spend a lot on the military, america's military=planet earth's police force
Which by no stretch answers my question.
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Which by no stretch answers my question.
it looked like you were commenting, i didn't know you wanted an "answer" to a question?
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they were in a war with a country about 1/20th their size and were losing
Landmass of a country means very little when your in a war. You could be the size of Rhode Island and kick everybody's ass.

My four would be Regan...FDR....JFK...and Clinton.
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Landmass of a country means very little when your in a war. You could be the size of Rhode Island and kick everybody's ass.

My four would be Regan...FDR....JFK...and Clinton.
yes it doesn't but, come on, the afghan's? they were nothing but a bunch of half assed mountain boys
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it looked like you were commenting, i didn't know you wanted an "answer" to a question?
Sorry my good man, I had confused this post with my previous post in this thread. My sincerest apologies (well, actually my 2nd sincerest. I'm not wasting my sincerest on the internet). Boy is my face red right now.
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