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Old 07 Jul 2004, 11:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The International Atomic Energy Agency confirmed in the 1990s that Saddam Hussein had an advanced nuclear weapons development program, had a design for a nuclear weapon and was working on five different methods of enriching uranium for a bomb. The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Our intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production. Saddam Hussein has not credibly explained these activities. He clearly has much to hide.

-- George W. Bush, 1/28/03
Bush lied, people died! Oh, wait. No he didnít.

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A UK government inquiry into the intelligence used to justify the war in Iraq is expected to conclude that Britainís spies were correct to say that Saddam Husseinís regime sought to buy uranium from Niger.

The inquiry by Lord Butler, which was delivered to the printers on Wednesday and is expected to be released on July 14, has examined the intelligence that underpinned the UK governmentís claims about the threat from Iraq. ...

President George W. Bush referred to the Niger claim in his state of the union address last year. But officials were forced into a climbdown when it was revealed that the only primary intelligence material the US possessed were documents later shown to be forgeries.

The Bush administration has since distanced itself from all suggestions that Iraq sought to buy uranium. The UK government has remained adamant that negotiations over sales did take place and that the fake documents were not part of the intelligence material it had gathered to underpin its claim.

The Financial Times revealed last week that a key part of the UKís intelligence on the uranium came from a European intelligence service that undertook a three-year surveillance of an alleged clandestine uranium-smuggling operation of which Iraq was a part.

Intelligence officials have now confirmed that the results of this operation formed an important part of the conclusions of British intelligence. The same information was passed to the US but US officials did not incorporate it in their assessment.
Letís consider a few things. In 1981, Israel destroyed Iraqís Osirak nuclear reactor after it was determined that Saddam planned to use it to enrich uranium. (Osirak was built for Saddam by France.) Yesterday the Energy Department removed nearly two tons of uranium. Itís fair to say that had Israel not destroyed Osirak, in all likelihood Saddam would have had enough enriched weapons-grade uranium to create a nuclear arsenal. The Israeli raid, the Gulf War, and the subsequent sanctions made it virtually impossible for him to develop these weapons. But that didnít stop him, and now we have justification for the intelligence appraisal that he had sought to buy yellowcake from Niger.

Can any of you lefties out there honestly claim that Saddam, given enough time, would not have eventually obtained a nuclear weapon? And if he had done so, can you imagine how much more difficult he would be to deal with? Just look at Kim Jong Il for an example of how possession of a nuke changes the entire diplomatic dynamic.

You can quibble all you want over the specifics, but getting rid of Saddam while he was relatively weak was the right thing to do. I supported it then and I support it now.

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The International Atomic Energy Agency confirmed in the 1990s that Saddam Hussein had an advanced nuclear weapons development program, had a design for a nuclear weapon and was working on five different methods of enriching uranium for a bomb. The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Our intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production. Saddam Hussein has not credibly explained these activities. He clearly has much to hide.

-- George W. Bush, 1/28/03
Bush was lying.... no he isn't cause thats a 1991 report. The UN took care of this problem when Bush Sr. along with the UN attacked iraq on Desert Storm. The allied forces disposed quite a large amount of WMD material by that time including missiles, labs and uranium. Saddam stopped cooperating with the UN in the very end of the 90's. So Bush Jr. is using a report made in the early 90's when his father in power big deal.

And Trev you're just posting the very obvious. And yet you failed to post that the uranium found is going to be investigated to see if it had any type of capability to be a WMD but for the looks of it it's just plain uranium and not depleted uranium wich is the right type used to make fuel for subs and ships or any type of WMDs.

Oh and by the way our US forces are using bullets filled with depleted uranium as well you know since it is used to make armor piercing bullets. And wich by the way with repeated and prolonged contacts with it this includes training sessions and battle scenarios is quite deadly. So you see if thats regular uranium it is useless to saddam but we do have plenty of it since we use it to kill the enemy as well as our own troops.

And now stealing some words from my president (since I made the mistake of voting for him in 2000)

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Can any of you lefties out there honestly claim that Saddam, given enough time, would not have eventually obtained a nuclear weapon? And if he had done so, can you imagine how much more difficult he would be to deal with? Just look at Kim Jong Il for an example of how possession of a nuke changes the entire diplomatic dynamic.
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Trev to make Depleted Uranium takes quite a while.
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Trev to make Depleted Uranium takes quite a while.
Then Isreal ceases to exist.

I'm glad we did what we did. If this all works out, which it prolly will, we'll have one more prescious ally in the middle east.
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i think you guys are missing the point. even if Saddam did have a nuke, how the fuck would he get it over to the U.S.? the best missiles these half assed mountain boys have are SCUDs and they can barely hit the edge of Israel from the edge of Iraq

IMO, North Korea is more of a threat, seeing as if they CAN hit us with a nuke, unlike Iraq

and as for the argument that may be brought up that they can sell it to terrorist's that can bring it to the U.S., i'd like to see a middle eastern man carrying a fat man down broadway, because the only nukes those arabs could actually make are the types dropped on Hiroshima

that "brief case" nuke argument is all untrue
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Well lets see smuggling. I bet a few years ago you would have also said. How the heck could a little terrorist group hijack a bunch of planes and assault the WTC and Pentagon.
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Well lets see smuggling. I bet a few years ago you would have also said. How the heck could a little terrorist group hijack a bunch of planes and assault the WTC and Pentagon.
actually, i wouldn't of thought that, considering there had been dozen's of planes hijacked before
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