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Old 21 Jun 2004, 04:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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San Francisco once again wipes its ass with the Constitution.

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In a push to get more immigrants involved in their children's education, San Francisco officials are considering asking voters in November to give parents who are not U.S. citizens the right to vote in school board elections.

Under the proposed ballot initiative, even illegal immigrants would be able to vote, so long as they are parents with kids in public schools.

If the effort succeeds, San Francisco would become the first city in California to join a growing number of cities across the country that have adopted similar laws in recent years. The move could open the door for other cities or counties in the immigrant-rich Bay Area to follow suit.

The controversial idea is already fueling charges from critics who say allowing non-citizens to vote devalues citizenship. But immigrant advocates and some voting-rights experts believe it's only a matter of time before the state comes to grips with its new demographic reality: Almost one-fifth of all voting-age Californians are non-citizens.

"It's almost a necessity for many cities,'' said Joaquin Avila, a law professor at the University of California-Los Angeles and a voting-rights expert who wrote a 2003 study on non-citizen voting and its potential impact on California. "You can't have a growing number of residents in your jurisdictions that are not part of the body politic. You want to have everyone inside the tent.''
And they can be. All they have to do is become citizens. If they plan on making the US their permanent residence, they can go through the naturalization process like everyone else and then they'll have full rights to sit at the table with the rest of the big boys.

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For immigrant parents like Miguel Perez, a permanent resident whose daughter attends a San Francisco elementary school, the right to vote in the school board elections boils down to a basic democratic principle: no taxation without representation.

"We want to have the right to choose because this affects our daily lives,'' said Perez, a member of an immigrant rights group that supports the proposal.
In the 1980s some of my family lived in outside of the country. None of my relatives could vote in those countries, yet they paid taxes just like any regular citizen. The idea that there is somehow some nefarious intent behind the citizenship requirement is just asinine. Citizenship confers certain rights and responsibilities upon the citizen. These immigrants want to come here and enjoy the benefits of what America offers without taking the step of actually becoming Americans.

My cousin recently passed her citizenship test. If she can do it, these lazy, good-for-nothing illegals can do it too. If they want to vote they can either become Americans, or they can go back to Mexico and vote all they want.

Got-Damn, I both love and hate San Francisco at the same time.

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Old 21 Jun 2004, 04:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If they want to vote they can come to Louisiana and register themselves as dead. The only right they have is voting, but they can't be required to pay taxes.
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Old 21 Jun 2004, 09:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Meh...you guys have WAAAY too many loopholes over there when it comes to voting and citizenships..Here its simple...as soon as your a full citizen you can vote and NOT sooner...
We do have a problem with refugees overusing or healthcare though...but hopefully that might change with our federal election coming up next week..Hmmm that reminds me I sould do a thread of that later on...
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