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Old 14 Jun 2004, 12:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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No It's not the Berlin Wall so be quiet.

Not long ago we all remember President Bush restricting stem cell research allying himself with religious grups (like this is the first time) and now Nancy Reagan and her sons wants Bush to tear down his proposition so there could be a cure for deseases like alzheimers and such. But still Bush denies this and still taking sides with the religious groups. Some republicans say that he should comply and change his mind, Democrats have always been in favor of this so I guess that is not new with the exception of a few of course.

Is Bush realy doing the right thing? There is a lot that can be done with that research and I mean a lot and yet Bush still doesn't want to do it. Is he helping humanity this way? Should this be alowed? My great grandmother passed away this thursday and she had alzheimers like Bush and es I agree with stem cell research.

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Old 14 Jun 2004, 01:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ironicly here in Canada, thats one of our hot button issues here as well (thoguh not the biggest) with faderal election coming up. However odds of 2 of the 3 major parties here are in favor for stem cell rescarch, and technicliy theres no direct law agaisnt it here. (are a few loophole discrapcies thoguh but are soon to change. Mind you there are the fair amount of nay sayers here as well with this too. but it seems more are in favor for it. One of my friends (who passed away last year) was parayzed playing basketball. could have had the chance to walk again. if the stem cell reacsearch wasn't limited.. (since he still could move his sholders evn though the break was above his neck, so the nerve dammage wasn't complely severed. I for one am in favor for this rescarch. Too many people could lose out on this if they didin't have it, and that beyond unfair.
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Old 14 Jun 2004, 02:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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As long as abortions are still legal, go for it.

The only part of abortions I really have a problem with is the infantacide known as "Late Term," or "Partial Birth" abortions. In which birth is induced and a spike is driven through the infants head, killing it almost instantly.
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Old 14 Jun 2004, 07:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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As long as abortions are still legal, go for it.
I agree with this statement. As a Catholic, I agree with my Church's teachings that something is alive when its heart beats (which happens at conception) and it is murder to purposely stop this heart from beating.
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As long as abortions are still legal, go for it.
I have to agree.

My stance on Abortion: It should only be legal if: 1.) It threatens the mother's life. 2.) It is a "rape" pregnancy. 3.) If (before birth) the child is nor going to lead a normal life. Such as deformatities or retardedness.

Abortion because some teenaged rich slut couldn't say no to alcohol and drugs and got knocked up is not a valid reason.
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I did. Remember?? You're just following me around acting like a little bitch posting after every post I put down because...well, because hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

You're probably sitting there wishing you had a pic of my kids so you could Photoshop them onto something because that's all you can really do.

Sure...you can take a run at numbfuck SC or plainjane Josh or complete moron Alex or can't get out of his own way Boston...but I don't agree with you about Barry and it's "Rueben Droughns this" "weed that" "your kids this" "Look at me and my halo over my head that."

Whatever. First of all, you don't have any depth of knowledge about any of that stuff, so you're just talking out of your ass. Secondly, you wouldn't be saying any of that shit if Barry Bonds wasn't some roided up freak who you're in love with.

It's fucking gay. I have better things to do than deal with someone who can't even debate a point, rather changes the subject again and again to deflect the fact that he's dead wrong. It's what dumbass 6th graders do...


I honestly don't give a fuck about your opinion. Like I told Alex, they're just words on a screen. I can't believe you don't get that concept...but okay.

I mean...you're the kind of guy that thinks if you yell louder than the other person, you will win a debate. And that's not new either...I've pretty much thought that about you from day one...

I didn't want to put it that way, but since you want to press on...

Lame dude. Just lame. I have better shit to do. You probably should too...but I'm betting you don't...

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My stance on Abortion: It should only be legal if: 1.) It threatens the mother's life. 2.) It is a "rape" pregnancy. 3.) If (before birth) the child is nor going to lead a normal life. Such as deformatities or retardedness.

Abortion because some teenaged rich slut couldn't say no to alcohol and drugs and got knocked up is not a valid reason.
Agreed. Thats what I had meant to say above...
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Old 15 Jun 2004, 12:21 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I agree with what UT said as well.
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Old 15 Jun 2004, 06:45 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm willing to find some middle ground in this argument and that'll do.
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I agree with the stance that if abortion is legal then stem cell research should be as well. Lets atleast give these lives a chance to help out another one.

On the abortion issue: I don't have a big problem with it, however I would NEVER want to abort my child. My only real problem with it is when it is used as a way to cover up a "mistake." A very close friend got his girlfriend pregnant and they got an abortion. To this day he regrets it...even though his relationship with the girl is not good.
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