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Enigmatic Charisma (The Return) 01 Apr 2013 02:57 PM

Who should be blamed for Zack Ryder's decline?
 
At one point, Zack Ryder was over in a major way. He had a ton of momentum and seemed to be heading toward a top spot in WWE.































However, he went from having great potential to be a top star, to barely appearing on TV and becoming what the IWC calls a "jobber."































Who deserves the blame for his decline? Is it due to him not having what it takes, or WWE dropping the ball with him? Please explain your answers.

Dkingz 01 Apr 2013 03:02 PM

The only person who should be blame is Zack Ryder himself he didn't do anything extraordinary to begin with Vince has no faith in him.

Brittanyt 01 Apr 2013 03:07 PM

Zack himself, he could have approached Vince about this.

Cherokee 01 Apr 2013 03:12 PM

Zack Ryder can look in the mirror and see who is to blame. He has a terrible gimmick and refused to change that gimmick. Zack and his fans can bitch about WWE not having faith in him,but they gave him a shot and he gave the lowest rated segment in years.

jack 01 Apr 2013 03:17 PM

Idk the reason must have veen that he got new talent like Damion Sandow,The Sheild ,Antonio Cesaro ect that he couldnt get Vince to push him

BB 01 Apr 2013 03:25 PM

Triple H.

Clark W-Angel Buffy Chosen 01 Apr 2013 03:29 PM

I don't know if there is anyone really "to blame", so to speak. I think Ryder is just your everyday, average wrestler who caught fire for a couple months, only to have that momentum peter out before long.































Ryder's gimmick was never going to allow him to seriously break into the main event. It's fun, yeah, but it's too cheesy, to cartoony and Ryder doesn't have the charisma to make it work for more than what it is right now. If you look at the vast majority of the lasting main event stars over the previous 20 years or so, almost all of them have fairly "regular" gimmicks. They may do silly or outrageous things from time to time, but most are billed more seriously. Think about it. John Cena didn't become JOHN CENA until he dropped the rapper schtick. Triple H didn't ascend to the top of the WWE until he rid himself of "Hunter Hearst Helmsley the uppity Englishman". Batista, Steve Austin, Cena and Triple H, Edge, CM Punk, hell even Jeff Hardy. Most of them are blown up versions of themselves. Ryder is not. Ryder is a parody imitation of the Jersey Shore cast.































That gimmick was never going to allow him to do anything truly lasting or significant. And that's not the WWE's fault. Those gimmicks, while silly, are designed to draw attention to the performer, not to be considered main event schticks. Ryder hasn't shown an real ability to excite the fan base like Cena or Triple H did when they were tagged with similar gimmicks. Fandango has a completely ridiculous gimmick right now, and already, despite not even wrestling in a single match so far, he's shown more top end potential (character wise) than Ryder.































That's not a knock, it's just reality. I'm not saying he'll never "make it". Just that so far, he hasn't shown any main event level talent. Just saying "broski and hoski" with a cartoonish grin on your face isn't enough.

mrt3o3 01 Apr 2013 03:33 PM

vince and the creative team































I was at Survivor Series when the Rock was cutting a promo and everyone was chanting We want Ryder, woo woo woo.































Nobody cared that it was john Morrisons last match, everyone wanted to see Ryder that night.































He had such a following, by mainly men like the IWC and he had a LOT of potential. He is a good wrestler and is very entertaining but for whatever reason. The WWE wouldnt actually use him. To have his name randomly start chanting during a Rock promo is unheard of. We spoke up, but the WWE didnt listen.































To anyone saying its his fault, you clearly don't know shit. He worked hard for that attention and the wwe ruined that and made him irrelevant

Pokemon White FC: 2108 8832 9721 01 Apr 2013 03:37 PM

The "Creative" team.















He really lost all his momentum when Kane beat the crap out of him

khole12 01 Apr 2013 03:42 PM

My 2 cents if anybody wants to hear it.















Ryder doesn't have the 'mental flexibility' to allow him to visualize a gimmick transforming himself into something special. He's to stale, to rigid to be anything else than a small~time wrestler. True, he has a gift for technical wrestling but will have to develop that more before anything happens. The WWE is a business and sooner or later they tired of him and moved on to more promising possibilities like...Kharma! Oh, and the Shield.

AGM 01 Apr 2013 03:47 PM

Vince McMahon, The entire creative team, Santino Marella, The Great Khali, Jerry Lawler and Stephanie McMahon. they all should be ashamed of themselves for giving Ryder a hard time.

chelsea 01 Apr 2013 03:52 PM

I always felt that Zack Ryder was always a passing fad. WWE, I believe, honestly tried to get him over. When he was busy being the Internet darling, he was the underdog, and everyone loves an underdog. As soon as he starting getting a push, he lost that and he sort of fizzled out. Zack Ryder has a personality, but honestly, it's kind of an annoying personality, and his wrestling ability is just average. Which, don't get me wrong, is enough. But, his personality just isn't marketable to a large audience.


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