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Miss me? Well, if you did or didn't, it doesn't matter. After almost a month of being gone, I am back. Well, let's stop the introductions and go right into the "Nonsense Thoughts," as I have a perfect topic to touch down upon for you guys today.

First off, where was I? Well, I have been extremely busy for the past month. At this writing, I am now fully a journalist. I do it all. I review, report, editorialize, and interview. No, I am not talking about reviews passed off as columns, but rather real actual reviews at review sites. I have been so backed up with all of this that my first passion just seemed to get pushed back on my schedule. At this writing, I have done 5 interviews in the past month, and have about 15 left to go. They range from unknowns like Cade Cassidy and Twisted Youth to popular stars like Low Ki and Steve Corino. My reviews? Well, I just review Indy shows mostly. If you are an Indy fed looking for some exposure on a couple of major sites, just e-mail me in my info below, and I will hook you up. Because of all of this, I have actually come to realize something. Reporters suck. They get all the credit and all the prestige, but for what? They copy and paste news from 1wrestling.com and rajah.com or from the e-mails the fans sent in. There are about three reporters out there right now (besides 1wrestling.com and rajah.com) who actually post stories that they do the research on. Of course, the other reporters then copy and paste their stories and get the credit. Funny, huh? Why don't columnists get the prestige? Granted, a lot of us do cheap ass reviews. That is not a column, people. I know columnists like Jordon Wright who do columns 2-3 times a week, and it's not a review. They are actually innovative columns. Sure, I could do one every day on reviews and what not, but would it be half as good as other columns? No. Reviews aren't columns, and vice versa. Well, that was a pretty big rant, but about 75% of the columns world does reviews for their columns. It sucks. Honestly, it doesn't make for a good column, and I know for a fact that the other 25% do better than the 75%. Well, except for one, but she's uber-popular and always will be. Wow, what a rant. Moving on...

I have to give major props to a local Indy federation named "Richmond Lucha Libre." They had a show last Saturday, and man, what a show it was. Despite the on and off drizzle of rain, the wrestlers still went out there and delivered an amazing night full of innovative stuff and really high spots. These guys have a bad rep for being a spot fest, but that's only if you're paying attention to the spots. If you pay attention to the whole match, you can realize that the spots come at the right time and play to the crowd. That is ring psychology, and the guys who badmouth RLL wish they could get that in their matches. Also, when you can draw 250+ people in the rain in a cramped area, you are definitely doing something right.

As of right now, you are viewing this column on forty sites. The most ever. There are only a couple websites that you do not see "Column O' Nonsense" on. Prowrestling.com, Wrestlezone.com, ProWrestlingScoops.com, 3StrandWrestling.com, and Wrestledotcom.com. Well, I won't write for PWS because I do not like Clark. I did badmouth him in a past column, and I would like to apologize as it was not professional. WZ is a place I think I will write for eventually, but it might take a while due to the process they do there to hire columnists. 3SW is another place I will not write for, but I would rather not go into that. I would like to write for WDC, but I know it won't happen, and the same thing happens for PW. PW is the biggest site out there, and I can't get on there. Why? Politics mostly. It sucks. While I sit here applying and getting bullshit reasons from people of "they are busy," people with no experience and some with no talent make it on. Now, I'm sounding arrogant, but honestly, I did not accomplish all I did without some inkling of talent, now did I? Yes, they have good columnists there, and one of their new columnists is good. But when I have been replying since January, and haven't gotten one single reply to tell me yes or no, and people have applied once do, it makes me wonder. I really wanted to quit column writing over this. It really is bothering me. It's like if your goal in wrestling was to get to WWE, but you can't due to politics. It sucks, I know. Well, hopefully it will change, and if it doesn't, I will care, but I know I shouldn't.

I don't really have any beef with WWE lately, except for how they push Raw over Smackdown. I won't go into that much as it will be the focus of my next column. However, everything else seems to be going well. We have a huge cruiser push now, a Spike Dudley push, Kurt Angle out as GM, a transition champ (we always need these), a solid champ, good feuds, good controversy, and more. For those people still complaining, they just don't have anything better to do in life. Sad, isn't it?

Well that's it for now and sorry for the length on some of those, but I felt like ranting, and it's my column. I'm not forcing you to read it, now am I? Anyway, let's head right into the focal point of the column:

You know, at the writing of this column, WWE has had the World Heavyweight Championship for a total of 700 days, roughly two years. 447 of those days have seen Triple H as champion, roughly 1.25 years. Now that we look back on his three title reigns, we wonder if it was spent wisely. He spent the majority of his time making everyone look bad and job to him, except Goldberg in two matches and his two friends (Kevin Nash & Shawn Michaels). But surely he had more opponents than that! When you look at the list of wrestlers that failed to usurp Triple H for the mighty prize of the business, Rob Van Dam, Kane, Chris Jericho, Booker T, Shawn Michaels, Scott Steiner, Kevin Nash, Goldberg, Randy Orton, Hurricane, Bubba Ray Dudley, and more, you start to wonder, "What if so-and-so had won the belt at that time?" Well, why don't we explore this thought?

Note: For length purposes, I will only discuss PPV title defenses and select Raw ones. Also, I will not do a superstar more than once. For example, Rob Van Dam had a title shot at Unforgiven 2002 and Survivor Series 2002. I will only do the most important title defense, none other than that. These rules are here to keep the column under ten pages, or twenty for that matter.

What if...

...Rob Van Dam had won at Unforgiven 2002?
Well for starters, that stupid curse of wrestlers who came over in the alliance would be gone. Out of all the members of the alliance, only two of them have received big title pushes, only to be squashed by Triple H. If RVD had won, we wouldn't be hearing this crap nowadays about Tommy Dreamer being a victim of the "curse." All you have to do is point to RVD and say, "He made it as champ. Tommy Dreamer just can't get over with the fans." Even more, look at all the feuds RVD could have had. Ric Flair (assuming he still turned at Unforgiven), Chris Jericho, Rock (when he came over), and more. One of those names really stands out. Chris Jericho. WWE really missed out on this feud and missed a lot of great matches they could have had. Don't believe me? Look at RVD-Jericho in the Elimination Chamber or look at their match at KOTR in 2002. These guys would have had an exciting feud. If you think about it more, WWE still could have had the IC-World Title unification at No Mercy, as at the time of Unforgiven, Jericho was IC Champ. See, it all makes sense in my warped little mind. Plus, RVD probably would have dropped the title to Jericho, which would have been my salvation in 2002. Even more, if RVD had won, it would show that Vince is branching off from the power house and/or technical style of the 90s and is actually experimenting with the cruiser and/or unorthodox style that has made its home in 2000. With this, WWE never would have had to worry about TNA's X Division as they could boast RVD as their champ. Just think of all the good it would have done. Honestly, what good was it to have Triple H make RVD look like crap just to turn Flair heel? Exactly.

...Bubba Ray Dudley had won at Raw, 2002?
This is one that doesn't require a lot of thought, but it is nice to think about it. Imagine it. Bubba Ray makes an impromptu challenge, and wins! Sure, Triple H would have won it back and it be marked as a fluke, but it would have been a masterful storyline and resulted in some good choice of words from Dudleyville's own. If he had won, Bubba Ray would have dropped the title back, but what if he hadn't? We could have had a transition champ to pass the belt to someone else who is a popular heel. Who? Flair or Jericho, for starters. We will go into why that would be good later.

...Kane had won at No Mercy 2002?
How many times has Kane been a world champ? Once. Not bad, huh? Wrong. He was champ for one day. That's freaking embarrassing. "I was once WWE Champion." "Oh really? How long?" "23 hours..." It's pathetic, guys. Plus, when Kane came back, he was hot. He was better in the ring than ever, his new style and new attitude gave fans something to cheer over. Basically, Kane was hot and he was literally next in line. If Kane never lost, we might not have had to put up with such a huge thing in 2003 with Kane de-masking. We never would have to "pretend" Kane actually crashed into a tractor trailer or fell into a pit of fire. We never would have had to listen to JR's fake screams. We wouldn't have had to deal with a lot of crap. If Kane had won, imagine if he held it till WM. Perhaps Deadman Taker would have come back earlier and come back to Raw and challenged for the belt. Get my drift? Things would have been better off is the main point.

...Scott Steiner had won at Royal Rumble 2003?
So technical masters like Benoit and crowd mentors like Guerrero can't have the belt, but Steiner can. The only good this would have done would have been to get the title off of Triple H for a little bit. Think the backlash on JBL winning the title was bad? Be glad this didn't happen.

...Booker T had won at Wrestlemania XIX?
How many times has a heel left Wrestlemania with the World belt? Thrice. How many times of those was it Triple H? Twice. How many times has a world champ retained at Wrestlemania (in the end)? Five times. How many times of those was it Triple H? Twice. How many world title matches has Triple H been in at Wrestlemania (at the time)? Three. How many times had he lost (at the time)? None. Get my drift. How big of an impact could Booker T make upending a man who has never lost in that situation before? A pretty big one. How much of a Cinderella story would it have been to have Booker T win the belt, a scenario WWE loves to play off? A huge one. Having Booker T as champion would set the tone for a new year. A new year of changes on Raw. Instead, we got the same old year. How could Booker T had made it different? HBK could have turned heel and challenged Booker T for animosity for the old nWo days. Kevin Nash could have done the same. Goldust could have become jealous and turned on him (or vice-versa). The list was endless. The possibilities were unlimited. But it didn't happen. After a match of pure desperation, Triple H proved he was the better man like he had done a million times before, and it helped nothing.

...Hurricane had won at Raw, 2003?
You talk about RVD breaking the curse and ushering in a new style? Hurricane would have done this, and better. If Rob Van Dam gets the biggest pop of the night, Hurricane is right there behind him. If Rob Van Dam sells the most merchandise, Hurricane is right behind him. The difference? Hurricane is not predictable in the ring and can deliver a solid promo like no other. His gimmick is second to none and the possibilities it had went on for miles. Had he won, there would have definitely signified a change in WWE. First, the belt can change hands on TV, giving people a reason to watch Raw more and to not tune out in title matches. Second, Hurricane would have made history by being the smallest person ever. Third, fourth, and fifth, does it really matter? If Hurricane had won, we could have seen Hurricane-Flair, the rematch; Hurricane-Jericho; Hurricane-Orton; Hurricane-Rosey (Supervillian); and more. We could have seen a champion who actually looked out for everyone on the roster and defended his championship as a superhero would. Yes, I am marking out, but if you are skeptical, ask yourself this: how much bad would it have done?

...Kevin Nash had won at Judgment Day 2003?
Well, Hogan gets one last run, why can't this has been? If he had won it, he would have lost it back. No impact, no significance. Nothing. Moving on...

...Ric Flair had won at Raw, 2003?
Wow. This would have been good. At this moment, Ric Flair was a tweener. He was still a heel, but against Triple H he was a face. Imagine the possibilities had he won. He could have had a feud with anyone! HBK, Jericho, Goldberg, Orton, Triple H, Nash, etc. ANYONE! Even more, imagine what life would have been like for whoever defeated Naitch. What kind of statement is it to say "I defeated Flair for the world title." Whoever would have beaten Flair would have looked like gold and would have been a main event player whether or not he was established or new. Plus, this would have given us one of the biggest mark-out moments of the year. Flair winning the title back in his first title match since 2002 (with Hogan) and years since his last title reign. You talk about the sixteen time champ, but doesn't seventeen sound better? To me it does.

...Goldberg had won at Summerslam 2003?
Honestly, I never wanted Goldberg as a champ, but if it was going to happen, it should have here. Here, WWE had the chance to make Goldberg the animal he once was, instead of the wimp he became in WWE. Sure, Goldberg took a sledgehammer to the shoulder, whoop-de-doo. The old Goldberg would have thrown Triple H through the chamber after that. With this, WWE could establish a new monster and new champ. After this, Triple H could have taken time off to heal and we could have had a World Title match at Unforgiven without Triple H. By this point, there had only been one World Title match without Triple H (with which he was still involved), and it could have changed. Plus, we all wouldn't have had to sit through the stink fest that was Goldberg-Triple H at Unforgiven if he had won at Summerslam. It was just better overall.

...Chris Jericho had won at Summerslam 2003?
Hallelujah! If Jericho had won, that's definitely what the wrestling world would have said. Perhaps one reason Triple H dropped the title was the absence of good heels at this point. Confused? Well, 99% of times you will never see a face drop to a face or a heel drop to a heel in WWE. So of course, if Triple H dropped the title, it would go to a face. Who would the face feud with? There was a huge absence of heels at this point. The list was basically: Orton (unprepared), Kane (involved with Shane), Flair (over the hill), and Jericho. That may be a reason WHY Triple H kept the belt for so long. So how do we quell those fears of having a face defend against only one good heel? Put the belt on another heel. How do we do that? Make Triple H be eliminated in the first part of the Chamber, and then leave Jericho to dominate. After this, we could have helped ourselves to any multitude of feuds. Shawn Michaels, Rob Van Dam, Kevin Nash, Goldberg, and more. Even more, because of Jericho's excellence in portraying both characters, we could have seen a couple of months as a heel, and then a face turn so he can deal with heels too. If Jericho had won, it would have quelled some fears that I will talk about in the next question.

...Randy Orton had won at Summerslam 2003?
What? Lesnar can win the title on his first main event, but Orton can't. Though I wouldn't have agreed with it, at this point anyone was better than Triple H. If he had won though, there would have been a lot of backlash. He is not established, too young, blah, blah blah, and blahibity blah. You can say the same about Lesnar, but honestly, I agree. I don't even think he should be in the title picture now, but obviously, I don't make the calls; Vince does. If Orton had won, there would have been a good storyline though. Remember how Flair drilled it into Orton's head that it was his job to make sure Triple H retained? Well obviously, he failed. Because of that, Evolution would have been over probably, and we would have gotten to see Triple H turn face, or get attacked by Orton and "recuperate." For those of you confused, if Orton had won the belt, there would have been a high chance that Triple H would have stayed off of WWE programming for a while. That's a good thing. Why? Because it helps WWE learn to survive without Triple H in case of emergency or when he's finally out of the title picture for good. How did WWF fail in the earlier 90s? They tried once to do things without Hogan. It failed, and they refused to try again. Good, huh? Wrong. That's why they were in a little dip when Hogan left. Luckily, they had such a good roster and team that they recovered quickly. I don't think we could recover if Triple H left unless we build up main eventers besides the regulars. If Orton had won, we would have recovered and would have had no reason to be scared. Though he wasn't ready, it would have helped to have him win the title.

...Shawn Michaels had won at Raw, 2003?
Talk about your success stories. Remember all the crap I fed you on if Bubba Ray won on an impromptu match, or if Hurricane won on Raw? Think about if Shawn Michaels, almost everyone's hero at this point, had won. First of all, it would have been the perfect end to 2003. Second, the perfect start to a new year. Third, it probably would have been one of the best Raw moments of the year, decade, and perhaps millennium. Think about this. If HBK would have won, we still would have gotten the Royal Rumble masterpiece of a match. Then after that, when Raw was supposed to do their PPV-style episode to match NWO, HBK drops it back to Triple H. Then we could have gotten into the whole storyline for the Triple Threat. Does it really matter if he would have won or not? Not really. We would have gotten the same outcome, except that HBK would have looked better going into Wrestlemania, giving Chris Benoit more credibility after his win. Get my drift?

Now that we are done with all of those, take time to absorb all that I said.

Need more time?

Done yet?

Eh, I'm tired of waiting. When you look back at Triple H's run as champ and all the people he made look like crap, does it really matter if someone would have usurped his title? Anyone on that list could have held it for at least a day while they shift it to someone else, preferably someone other than Triple H. Even if Triple H had gotten it back after a short title reign, it would have given us all hope that Triple H could lose the belt. Get my drift? Whether it had been Steiner holding it for a day or Jericho for 4 months, anything on this list could have helped, and at least one of these should have happened. However, they didn't, and we were stuck with Triple H for a good majority of the past 2 years. What was the point of me sharing this with you? Just realize that Triple H isn't gone, and he probably won't be for a long time. He will always be in the title picture and main event because that's what he needs. If you're depressed about this, just do what I do and think, "What if..."

Well that's it for this main topic. As always, we have the final stretch (QOTC, MOTC, Cheap Plug, and the IQ Quote) to go before I let you guys go and complain about the time I wasted. For those of you who are leaving now, just remember that you can contact me for feedback with the information at the bottom of the column. For those staying, let's start our sprint down the final stretch.

For this week's QOTC (quote of the column for the new readers), I decided I would pick something from one of the funniest wrestlers of all time. Even more, I thought I should pick a quote of him picking on someone we all love to as well. Well, here it is. Enjoy!
"Eeked? That's not even a word. You're a sportscaster. Read a thesaurus, damn it!"
Chris Jericho to Michael Cole, Smackdown January 24, 2002

Now that we have that done with, what should I pick for the MOTC (match of the column for the new readers)? Well, I have watched a heck of a lot of wrestling since we last saw each other, mostly WWE, but still. I have seen Angle-Benoit thrice (Backlash 2001, Unforgiven 2002, and Royal Rumble 2003), but should I name a match that everyone has seen and heard of? Nah, I'd rather choose a match that a lot of people have probably seen but never thought twice about. I am going to pick a match about the struggles that happen between bitter friends and the lengths some will go to get revenge. I pick...
Chris Benoit Vs. Eddie Guerrero, Armageddon 2002

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yeah, that's a lot of crap.....topic of nonsense was right.....I'll never waste my time again on something like that......
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didn't read it but should it be moved to smarks?
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no, don't put that slop in smarks.....same old rehashed nonsense......
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no, don't put that slop in smarks.....same old rehashed nonsense......

well i was just wondering, cause i know regular posters don't like to read all that, so usually reading = meeting of the smarks

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Ok....so constructive criticism is wasted on retard land?
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there is a difference between constructive criticism and rehashing the same stuff that we have all discussed too many times already.....

all of your what if's are so old, nobody cares to read them anymore.....you have decent writing skills, but instead of rehashing why it would have been good for Booker T to win the title, why not discuss something that is relevant to today?.....

I like to read editorials and columns, but please make it relevant to the present.....I presume that you are a member, or have been before, of wrestling message boards.....therefore, I would assume that you should know that all of the things you brought up in your "what if?" scenarios were discussed, cried about, languished over and finally dismissed......six months ago at least.....

talk about the history of wrestling, and do so further back than last year.....talk about the future of wrestling.....and talk about the present.....there are a lot of things to discuss rather than bringing your personal opinions that HHH has held people down into an article.....you see, you called yourself a journalist.....I agree, you have the makings....but the best journalists never allow personal feelings to influence their writings.....what you have done is create an editorial that, if it were relevant, I and several others on this board (and probably just about any wrestling board) could have torn apart.....

now, I understand the retard comment, because you were irritated about the fact that I called your hard work slop.....I apologize for that....now I have given you constructive criticism.....take it for what you will, but I promise you it is correct.....you obviously work hard at what you do, and I commend you for that.....but you currently have the respect of no one here.....you have to earn that.....I'm giving you that opportunity now.....

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i don't really give two cents about what you have to say... you look to have a good article, even if it is rehashed, but you should limit it. Most posters don't want to sit and look through what would take up to 15 minutes to read for one post. Break the subject down if you want, and maybe people will respond, if not then leave.
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I disagree. I won column of the year in 2003 for a column about something that happened in 2001. It's not living in the past. It's living in the alternate present.
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send me your column that won column of the year.....I'd like to compare.....
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well why you two argue, my point is, writing a column is great no doubt, but posting it in a forum, where not many people are that interested, isn't going to really get you anywhere
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hey, he apparently wanted open critiques.....you crackhead....

true, it's never gonna get many reads.....that's one of the reasons I've quit writing much....

sidenote: Sting>silly arguments.....
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nothing really against the guy, although he seems to hate PWF for firing him yet he comes and posts in the forums...I would read it, but i really don't want to waste the time...had he made it into 3 parts i probally would have, but that is too much for me to go through and have the feeling that it might be a load of crap...
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I don't hate PWF.

I think Deven is a bitch though
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