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Old 06 Jan 2008, 12:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Warner Bros to back Blu-Ray DVDs, sources say
Posted: January 04, 2008, 7:34 PM by DrewHasselback
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Another media giant has apparently taken sides in the debate over the Blu-Ray versus HD DVD formats.

Reuters reported on Friday that two unnamed sources tell the news service that Warner Bros. is about to announce that its next generation of DVD's will use Sony Corp.s Blu-ray format exclusively.

The decision is significant because Warner Bros, a unit of Time Warner, accounts for up to 20% of DVD sales in the United States. Until now it has backed both formats.

Here's how things line up now: News Corp's 20th Century Fox, Walt Disney Co, Lions Gate Entertainment Corp, and Sony's own MGM are backing the Blu-ray format, while DreamWorks Animation, Viacom Inc's Paramount studios and NBC Universal, which is owned by General Electric Co and France's Vivendi, release movies in HD DVD format.

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BluRay Nailed the HD's coffin shut tonight.
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That is really unfortunate. HD is the superior technology and the one I have been backing. As an HD-DVD early-adopter, I'm not happy with this news.

Blu-Ray will probably win now, and it's clunky menus and inferior standards will be victorious.
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Glad I haven't invested in HD movies yet.

I don't care which one wins honestly.
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Paramount, universal, and New Line all still support HD...as does the Porn industry
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Hey Kurt, remember that "Blu Ray is the new Beta" line you said a few months ago?


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New Line Shifts to Blu-ray Exclusivity
Posted January 5, 2008 by Wondermaker

Following Warner's lead, sister company New Line has confirmed that it will support Blu-ray Disc high def releases exclusively. New Line has previously delayed their day-and-date new releases on HD DVD due to the format's lack of region coding, effectively making titles such as Shoot 'em Up, Hairspray, and Rush Hour 3 exclusive to Blu-ray. Although a 2008 release slate for the studio has not been released, an announcement may be possible at this year's Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.

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well, that changes things a little.....tho one should never use Wikipedia for a source.

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One more reason to get a PS3.
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Goddamned New Line/WB.

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What do I think? Hmmmmmmmmm by a Blue-Ray HD combo player that plays both and upconverts your regular dvds, this will be a long drawn out war kinda like the one were fighting in Iraq.
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Nah, it won't take that long.
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I hate the concept of Blu-Ray/HD-DVD. Why the fuck would I want to buy a new fucking DVD player to watch movies? There's nothing wrong with the picture on DVDs. Eventually, the DVD will be the VHS tape and everyone will have to buy HD-DVD players or Blu-Ray players. Then I won't be able to watch anything from my movie collection (unless HD-DVD players play regular DVDs, in which case Blu-Ray is fucking retarded).

Fuck it. What's wrong with a normal DVD?
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I hate the concept of Blu-Ray/HD-DVD. Why the fuck would I want to buy a new fucking DVD player to watch movies? There's nothing wrong with the picture on DVDs. Eventually, the DVD will be the VHS tape and everyone will have to buy HD-DVD players or Blu-Ray players. Then I won't be able to watch anything from my movie collection (unless HD-DVD players play regular DVDs, in which case Blu-Ray is fucking retarded).

Fuck it. What's wrong with a normal DVD?
It's my understanding that both HD-DVD players and Blu-Ray players play regular DVDs, and upscale them to near HD quality.

Personally, I think regular DVDs look great on my HDTV. I have yet to see an HD movie on it, but I'm in no rush to do so. I'll wait for this format war to be settled before making a decision. By then, the cost of players, as well as the movies, should be significantly lower.
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TOKYO - Toshiba said Tuesday it will no longer develop, make or market HD DVD players and recorders, handing a victory to rival Blu-ray disc technology in the format battle for next-generation video.

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"We concluded that a swift decision would be best," Toshiba President Atsutoshi Nishida told reporters at his company's Tokyo offices.

The move would make Blu-ray — backed by Sony Corp., Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., which makes Panasonic brand products, and five major Hollywood movie studios — the winner in the battle over high-definition DVD formatting that began several years ago.

Nishida said last month's decision by Warner Bros. Entertainment to release movie discs only in the Blu-ray format made the move inevitable.

"That had tremendous impact," he said. "If we had continued, that would have created problems for consumers, and we simply had no chance to win."

Warner joined Sony Pictures, Walt Disney Co. and News Corp.'s Twentieth Century Fox in that move.

Nishida said his company had confidence in HD DVD as a technology and tried to assure the estimated 1 million people, including some 600,000 people in North America, who already bought HD DVD machines by promising that Toshiba will continue to provide product support for the technology.

Both HD DVD and Blu-ray deliver crisp, clear high-definition pictures and sound, which are more detailed and vivid than existing video technology. They are incompatible with each other, and neither plays on older DVD players. But both formats play on high-definition TVs.

HD DVD was touted as being cheaper because it was more similar to previous video technology, while Blu-ray boasted bigger recording capacity.

Only one video format has been expected to emerge as the victor, much like VHS trumped Sony's Betamax in the video format battle of the 1980s.

Nishida said it was still uncertain what will happen with the Hollywood studios that signed to produce HD DVD movies, including Universal Studios, Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks Animation.

Toshiba's pulling the plug on the technology is expected to reduce the number of new high-definition movies that people will be able to watch on HD DVD machines. Toshiba Corp. said shipments of HD DVD machines to retailers will be reduced and will stop by end of March.

Sales in Blu-ray gadgets are now likely to pick up as consumers had held off in investing in the latest recorders and players because they didn't know which format would emerge dominant.

Despite being a possible blow to Toshiba's pride, the exit will probably lessen the potential damage in losses in HD DVD operations. Goldman Sachs has said pulling out would improve Toshiba's profitability between 40 billion yen and 50 billion yen ($370 million-$460 million) a year.

The reasons behind Blu-ray's triumph over HD DVD are complex, as marketing, management maneuvers and other factors are believed to have played into the shift to Blu-ray's favor that became more decisive during the critical holiday shopping season.

Once the balance starts tilting in favor of one in a format battle, then the domination tends to grow and become final, said Kazuharu Miura, an analyst at Daiwa Institute of Research in Tokyo.

"The trend became decisive I think this year," he said. "When Warner made its decision, it was basically over."

With movie studios increasingly lining up behind Blu-ray, retailers also began to stock more Blu-ray products.

Friday's decision by Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the largest U.S. retailer, to sell only Blu-ray DVDs and hardware appeared to deal a final blow to the Toshiba format. Just five days earlier, Netflix Inc. said it will cease carrying rentals in HD DVD.

Several major American retailers had already made similar decisions, including Target Corp. and Blockbuster Inc.

Also adding to Blu-ray's momentum was the gradual increase in sales of Sony's PlayStation 3 home video-game console, which also works as a Blu-ray player. Sony has sold 10.5 million PS3 machines worldwide since the machine went on sale late 2006.

HD DVD supporters included Microsoft Corp., Intel Corp. and Japanese electronics maker NEC Corp.

Microsoft's Xbox 360 game machine can play HD DVD movies, but the drive had to be bought separately, and Nishida said about 300,000 people have those.

Worldwide sales of personal computers with HD DVD drives total about 300,000 worldwide, including 140,000 in North America and 130,000 in Europe, he said.

Recently, the Blu-ray disc format has been gaining market share, especially in Japan. A study on fourth quarter sales last year by market researcher BCN Inc. found that by unit volume, Blu-ray made up 96 percent of Japanese sales.

Sony said it did not have numbers on how many Blu-ray players had been sold globally.

Toshiba's stock slipped 0.6 percent Tuesday to 824 yen after jumping 5.7 percent Monday amid reports that a decision was imminent. Sony shares climbed 2.2 percent to 5,010 yen after rising 1 percent Monday.

Also Tuesday, Toshiba said it plans to spend more than 1.7 trillion yen ($15.7 billion) for two plants in Japan to produce sophisticated chips called NAND flash memory, which are used in portable music players and cell phones. Production there will start in 2010.

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